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InAbLuEsTaTe

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28. Exactly, which is why progressives should make Hillary WORK for our vote...
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 12:52 PM
Feb 2015

By pledging our votes in the general election NOW, Hillary doesn't have to move left to accommodate our progressive issues. She'll be more likely to take us for granted, figuring she's got us no matter what and cowtow to the mushy middle and, perhaps, even further right.

If, however, Hillary worries she might lose our votes in the general - even if we ultimately decide we'll vote for her over the Rethug candidate - it makes her have to work harder for progressive votes. That might actually buy us something in exchange for our voting for Hillary.

Why sell our selves short by pledging our loyalty to Hillary NOW? Yet, so many DUers are willing to telegraph their intentions and harangue those of us who are playing it cool for now and are waiting for Hillary TO COME TO US, rather than the other way around. This is the ONLY way to give ourselves leverage to continue Obama's legacy of bringing real change to America.

Why can't others see this? No, we have to declare we'll vote for Hillary if our candidate loses, or else we're bad Democrats or should I say "progressive Independents." That's total bullshit andjust a plain dumb thing to say.

The smarter strategy I think is to just play it cool and make Hillary WORK HER ASS OFF to secure our vote, not just in the primaries, but in the general election as well. JMHO.

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.

Peace.

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Warren implying that she will go by campaign rhetoric? merrily Feb 2015 #1
Not good. nt RiverLover Feb 2015 #3
And if she doesn't like what she hears? leftofcool Feb 2015 #2
I guess she'd be the one to ask. RiverLover Feb 2015 #5
she's not a progressive she's a democrat Romeo.lima333 Feb 2015 #4
True Gman Feb 2015 #9
That's part of the problem. Progressive policies do well in elections that Dems lose. RiverLover Feb 2015 #12
I take this as a very good sign, the possibility exists for a Warren run. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #6
I like your sunny outlook NYC_SKP, thanks! RiverLover Feb 2015 #8
Best way to look at it. daleanime Feb 2015 #10
Elizabeth's runnin - Hillary can "bank" on it, along with her Wall Street buddies. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #26
That was my reaction too, NYC_SKP. hedda_foil Feb 2015 #33
Let's hope Hillary listens to her Frosty1 Feb 2015 #7
Well she listened to bush*!! pocoloco Feb 2015 #15
Hillary owes too much to Wall Street to run honestly JDPriestly Feb 2015 #35
That may well be true BUT... Frosty1 Feb 2015 #38
HRC should just declare as a moderate republican and open up the democratic field IMHO on point Feb 2015 #11
Hillary could win the Republican nomination, tho it might be a close race between her and Jebbie. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #27
I think Warren is just being, correctly, very politically correct. djean111 Feb 2015 #13
I thought it was an answer with perfect pitch. spooky3 Feb 2015 #16
Exactly, which is why progressives should make Hillary WORK for our vote... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #28
Especially because there is no mushy middle. hedda_foil Feb 2015 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #29
Look. People with money do not pay out just to be listened to. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #36
Even as a new politician, Warren isn't stupid. Sancho Feb 2015 #14
Rich people hire people to do their bidding. They give to charity JDPriestly Feb 2015 #37
love it!!! love her!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #17
Wait, u sayin we shud elect a candidate based on policy & issues ratha than blindly throwin our support 2 them? That's crazy talk! haha InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #30
.... BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #31
haha, good to hear! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #32
We are all waiting to see if she will run on a progressive platform. beemer27 Feb 2015 #18
Didn't Warren sign a letter encouraging HRC to run and pledging support? ALBliberal Feb 2015 #19
This interview explains the letter & how she studiously avoids endorsing Hillary~ RiverLover Feb 2015 #20
I like both of these "terrific" women but this back and forth is hurting our chances in 2016 ALBliberal Feb 2015 #25
I can this. Hillary is a newcomer with essentially no track record... Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #21
WAITING.....??? ProudProg2u Feb 2015 #22
This is AFTER the meeting w/ Warren, held at HRC's request. Divernan Feb 2015 #23
Fantastic article. RiverLover Feb 2015 #24
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