Gun Control Reform Activism

billh58

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29. This is the

Sun Feb 15, 2015, 03:57 PM

Feb 2015

"Gun Control Reform Activism (Group)" and that is the topic addressed by this OP. This is not the "let's solve the violence problem in the United States (Group)."

The answer to your comment: "It can only change when the country changes. How do we change the Empire into a functioning democracy?" is that it can change if we start by controlling the implements of violence and make it less easy to kill each other. And that is the focus of this Group. As stated elsewhere, in other countries violence may result in an egg or a shoe being thrown, or a punch in the face, whereas in the USA violence more often than not results in someone being shot.

The need for gun control has already been established by a large majority of this country, and this Group is one of many that are discussing and planning ways to bring sensibility to the gun control debate. We agree that societal violence is a root cause, but gun violence is highly visible, and easily addressable in the near term.

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with regard to the murders in Chapel Hill [View all] barbtries Feb 2015 OP

As a liberal. I do not identify with gun ownership Trajan Feb 2015 #1

there are people who are otherwise liberal barbtries Feb 2015 #3

I, and the vast majority of billh58 Feb 2015 #4

I agree. And now it seems to be if they were killed because of a dispute over a parking space, enough Feb 2015 #2

thank you enough barbtries Feb 2015 #6

Do you want a discussion about the culture or about guns? Leontius Feb 2015 #8

the gun culture barbtries Feb 2015 #9

So the violence doesn't bother you as much as guns do. Leontius Feb 2015 #10

what a ridiculous statement barbtries Feb 2015 #12

So then the guns are the cause of the violence? Leontius Feb 2015 #14

if you have a point make it. barbtries Feb 2015 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #16

No I checked and I'm not violating the groups SOP. Leontius Feb 2015 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #18

When I use NRA "talking points" be sure to alert until then ..... Leontius Feb 2015 #19

So, you've mentioned you have some thoughts about solutions to the problem of gun violence... Electric Monk Feb 2015 #20

It's not just gun violence it's the general level of acceptance that our society has for violent Leontius Feb 2015 #23

That's a good example. That's the sort of law I think most of our GCRA Group members here would back Electric Monk Feb 2015 #24

Did you not notice that you said that guns are not the problem but then cite flamin lib Feb 2015 #40

No that's not what I said but it is what you want to hear. Leontius Feb 2015 #42

I only read what you write and so far you seem to be too confused to be flamin lib Feb 2015 #43

I am quite clear in what I'm saying the cause of your confusion seems to be Leontius Feb 2015 #44

No, you are intentionally obtuse and bent on flamin lib Feb 2015 #45

Don't make false statements about what I posted. Leontius Feb 2015 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #21

Then alert away little bill. Leontius Feb 2015 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #25

Gunz darn sure embolden some people. Zimmerman and Dunn would have sat in their cars without a gun. Hoyt Feb 2015 #26

Absolutely they can and do embolden people to act in a more agressive manner. Leontius Feb 2015 #35

You gotta start somewhere. Every decade we delay, another 100 million are bought by yahoos. Hoyt Feb 2015 #36

I like your haircut jimmy the one Feb 2015 #39

You have some way to separate "the culture" of our current society from guns? (nt) enough Feb 2015 #37

You don't? Leontius Feb 2015 #38

It's your contention that it's culture, not guns. flamin lib Feb 2015 #41

Mainstream and Fundie media are inciting the attacks and murders on Muslims Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #5

yes, and there seems to be an endless supply of barbtries Feb 2015 #7

K&R Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #11

36% of households have guns. flamin lib Feb 2015 #13

Right-wing NRA/ALEC apologists billh58 Feb 2015 #27

right on the mark with your post guillaumeb Feb 2015 #28

This is the billh58 Feb 2015 #29

agreed guillaumeb Feb 2015 #33

i don't know. barbtries Feb 2015 #30

Excellent post locks Feb 2015 #31

thank you locks. barbtries Feb 2015 #32

gun owners are a small minority guillaumeb Feb 2015 #34