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billh58

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19. The Syrian situation
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:08 PM
Sep 2013

can not be compared to WWII in any shape, form, or fashion. Apples and oranges. The Syrian situation is a civil war where a family of dictators who have been in power for decades, is being challenged by a group of rebels intent on overthrowing their brutal dictatorship.

WWII, on the other hand, was an unprovoked war of aggression by Germany and Japan in an attempt to seize land and resources from legitimate governments through the use of military force. The only "miscalculation" was made by the Axis powers about the resolve of the Americans and their Allies. The Allies intervened to oppose territorial aggression, and won decisively.

The war of aggression on the American people by the NRA and its supporters has claimed more American lives than all wars that Americans have been involved in. Gun deaths in America have exceeded our war deaths:

" More American citizens have died since 1968 (1,384,171) than U.S. soldiers killed in ALL wars combined (1,171,177)."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jan/18/mark-shields/pbs-commentator-mark-shields-says-more-killed-guns/

WWII claimed 60 million total deaths (both Axis and Allies) of which 400,000 were Americans. Am I advocating war? No, definitely not because I have seen war close up and personal and can testify to its horrors. I agree with the statement that war is the result of a failure of diplomacy.

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Yep - I sure am JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #1
I'm not perplexed at all. wild bird Sep 2013 #2
but why would spinning out of control be problem for them? BainsBane Sep 2013 #4
Gun violence may be out of control, that's an ongoing, raging debate, wild bird Sep 2013 #6
but it doesn't kill many more BainsBane Sep 2013 #7
Another world war wouldn't kill more? wild bird Sep 2013 #9
Are you actually billh58 Sep 2013 #15
I don't know any gun nuts, so I don't know if they're in their right minds. wild bird Sep 2013 #17
The Syrian situation billh58 Sep 2013 #19
Great post. wild bird Sep 2013 #20
I sound familiar....? wild bird Sep 2013 #18
Let's see... billh58 Sep 2013 #36
Interesting. Nicely spotted. DanTex Sep 2013 #37
I'm saying more people die from gun violence than from war BainsBane Sep 2013 #22
No. One thing has nothing to do with the other. nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #3
human life BainsBane Sep 2013 #5
Yup. Glaug-Eldare Sep 2013 #23
No its all about self defense nt daa Sep 2013 #8
So then they shouldn't oppose arming the Syrian opposition BainsBane Sep 2013 #10
Their current proposal in Congress is not to arm the Syrian opposition blueridge3210 Sep 2013 #11
If someone calims to be concerned about drunk driving BainsBane Sep 2013 #13
One can also billh58 Sep 2013 #16
No. It isn't that simple Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #12
I'm talking about people who oppose all gun control reforms BainsBane Sep 2013 #14
OK, then you are talking about a fringe element, especially here on DU Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #21
Being able to ignore gun violence is a prerequisite for being a gun rights advocate. DanTex Sep 2013 #24
"My rights trump your deaths." Paladin Sep 2013 #25
I will never forget that BainsBane Sep 2013 #32
Whenever there's a mass shooting, they care about 2 things: Paladin Sep 2013 #34
2 words. BlueToTheBone Sep 2013 #26
meaning they hate him? BainsBane Sep 2013 #33
Yes. Crazy as that sounds, yes.. BlueToTheBone Sep 2013 #35
maybe because Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #27
There is a big billh58 Sep 2013 #28
from what I have seen here Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #29
That's the NRA billh58 Sep 2013 #30
Well said. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #31
If your belief structure HALO141 Sep 2013 #38
You rose from hibernation to say that? BainsBane Sep 2013 #39
I've been busy. HALO141 Sep 2013 #40
Just playing devil's advocate... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2013 #41
They love arms dealers who sell to private citizens BainsBane Sep 2013 #42
"Arms dealers"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2013 #43
right, those are the unlicensed ones who don't do background checks BainsBane Sep 2013 #44
Hmm discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2013 #45
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