2016 Postmortem

zipplewrath

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16. It was a very close race

Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:11 PM

Jan 2017

One can point to almost anything and say it was the "difference" because any little thing will matter.

Much of the criticism is because people saw her campaign making "mistakes" prior to the election and now they feel validated.

I think that actually if one steps back and takes the long view, there may have been no way to run her campaign and win. Too much stacked against her, and really the Democratic Party. She isn't the only candidate that lost and we've been losing in a sense for a long time. The democratic party is in the worst shape it's been in decades. The Clinton's have had a hand in that, along with Obama. But there are way more involved than just those two.

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I am of the opinion that Clinton ran a solid campaign. [View all] NCTraveler Jan 2017 OP

Of course she did - and I started as a Bernie supporter. The media owns much of the outcome NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #1

Thanks for saying that! BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #15

K & R ......agreed....nt Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #2

Yep. n/t Lucinda Jan 2017 #3

Hillary had to overcome numerous formidable obstacles Martin Eden Jan 2017 #4

Agree with each point. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #5

Good analysis. nt. andym Jan 2017 #25

Money is essential as air HRC2020 Jan 2017 #47

Are you referring to Hillary's secret speeches to Wall Street bigwigs? Martin Eden Jan 2017 #48

Agreed-the Comey act of treason really hurt Gothmog Jan 2017 #6

Agreed. SharonAnn Jan 2017 #7

Yes she did mcar Jan 2017 #8

A great one, I think. Orsino Jan 2017 #9

I agree. yardwork Jan 2017 #10

Whenever you lose anything by a tiny bit Yupster Jan 2017 #11

Exactly. More people were given reason to vote than did. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #12

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #13

This is, without a doubt, the fault of RUSSIAN HACKING. 3 million does not lie. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #14

It was a very close race zipplewrath Jan 2017 #16

I don't buy it. We should have been able to run a moldy ham dionysus Jan 2017 #17

Republicans had control of every level of government before and after November 8th Cosmocat Jan 2017 #18

Your numbers are right, but in presidential races at least, the last several dionysus Jan 2017 #19

Her "negatives" are the result of her running for POTUS Cosmocat Jan 2017 #22

I admit i don't really like hillary... but i don't have to. I didn't dionysus Jan 2017 #38

Your last point is a pet peeve of mine... Yurovsky Jan 2017 #42

he's an asshole and a bad businessman, but he knows how to appeal to people Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #28

Well, yes and no... he does appeal to people, certain people, by dionysus Jan 2017 #37

It may have been solid NobodyHere Jan 2017 #20

We should have worked outside influences harder like Trump. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #23

K&R betsuni Jan 2017 #21

It definitely was solid. She clearly learned from 2008. Tatiana Jan 2017 #24

Recommended. And also: guillaumeb Jan 2017 #26

She ran a solid campaign and so did Trump. andym Jan 2017 #27

I think the biggest mistake her campaign made--that we all made-- was believing the polls Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #29

Completely agree. Nt NCTraveler Jan 2017 #31

Trump is very good at what he does. HassleCat Jan 2017 #30

I still don't understand the math behind the EC votes. Rex Jan 2017 #32

All campaigns make mistakes, but IMO they handled the email "issue" very poorly MichMan Jan 2017 #33

Agreed. I suspect part of the reason for the poor response on that Lee-Lee Jan 2017 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #34

Not sure where I argued anything about Trump not being President Elect. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #35

I don't think she did at all Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2017 #39

Solid campaign vs popular perception hurl Jan 2017 #40

she would have won, with ease, on a level playing field. Takket Jan 2017 #41

If there was a weakness is was complacency after the Access Hollywood video. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #43

I am not of the opinion she ran a flawless campaign. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #45

She lost to someone who had worse favorable ratings than Goldwater jfern Jan 2017 #44

Pretty shocking. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #46