2016 Postmortem

Ligyron

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38. IDK, that's a good question.

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 12:17 PM

Jan 2017

BTW, where was Liz Warren, etc.?

Maybe he, Bernie, was at a gun rally bashing BLM?

Or in Lauderdale helping that idiot load his weapon.

Honestly, this hatred of Sen Sanders by some here is so silly and counter productive.

The "It's that mean, sexist Sen. Sanders who prevented our queen's coronation!" misses the fact that we ran a candidate wrongfully disliked by so many that we flat lost. Our folly in this may well be the undoing of this grand experiment in Democracy we call the USA.

Comey, the unanswered, unchallenged long-term brainwashing of half the public by a RW media machine and the Russian's interference had way more to do with this disaster than anything Sanders could have done even if he tried.

The DNC's corruption from the top and shortsightedness certainly didn't help either.

We best figure this out - and quick or we are truly doomed as a party and a people.

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Where was Bernie today? [View all] EffieBlack Jan 2017 OP

Same reason none of the other Senators did. elleng Jan 2017 #1

But isn't Bernie supposed to be different from the rest? Stronger, braver, tougher, more independent EffieBlack Jan 2017 #2

Touche' Cha Jan 2017 #10

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #76

+1. Great question. I'll await the answer, but I suspect it may never come. nt Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #12

Oh snap. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #22

what would he have been standing up to? The problem is Trump still won the electoral college. That JCanete Jan 2017 #37

Standing up and questioning the Electoral College vote wouldn't have changed the outcome... George II Jan 2017 #68

Because he has been advocating for things that nobody else was on board with or willing to entertain JCanete Jan 2017 #72

His low level of legislative achievement isn't a "metric", it's a fact. George II Jan 2017 #73

He was invited to be by his side...you think sanders just showed up and said "is this seat taken?" JCanete Jan 2017 #74

Yes, Sanders is a US Senator, not a State Senator, but he's a US Senator from VERMONT, not New York. George II Jan 2017 #75

okay, I retract it, but I also resent your characterization that seems unmerited under the JCanete Jan 2017 #77

But what does that have to do with this story? NWCorona Jan 2017 #39

Dang! Spot on, EB. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #52

Your made up narrative certainly makes it look that way... TCJ70 Jan 2017 #60

among those was free college, which she ended up adding to her platform, which New York just JCanete Jan 2017 #63

He needs to concentrate on things he can have an effect on like Medicare womanofthehills Jan 2017 #70

No - cos he's the leader of the Revolut...i..o.. fuck it. pkdu Jan 2017 #3

Today he lost whatever credibility he had left. He talks a good game, but didn't utter a peep when EffieBlack Jan 2017 #9

Yep. Agreed. nt pkdu Jan 2017 #14

So did every sitting Dem senator lose any credibility? NWCorona Jan 2017 #40

Yes, many of them did, elleng Jan 2017 #48

I can appreciate the consistency. NWCorona Jan 2017 #50

Yes, they did - but not as much as the guy who's supposed to be such a revolutionary EffieBlack Jan 2017 #59

People that voted for Bernie and then Hillary always say... tecelote Jan 2017 #30

Yes indeed, our priority should be coming together. elleng Jan 2017 #49

You as a staunch Bernie Sanders supporter...did you vote for Hillary in the GE? BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #53

I staunchly supported Governor O'Malley, elleng Jan 2017 #54

You're correct. You were for O'Malley. My apologies. I forgot that part. BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #56

Isn't it obvious? HassleCat Jan 2017 #4

Based on his earlier writings, I think he probably resents being defeated by a woman. George II Jan 2017 #6

So, why do YOU think that he didn't speak up today? EffieBlack Jan 2017 #7

For the same reason none of the others did. HassleCat Jan 2017 #11

So speaking up and standing with the CBC members on something this important was a "futile quest?" EffieBlack Jan 2017 #13

Bernie, Bernie, Bernie! HassleCat Jan 2017 #15

Who said anything about "everything being Bernie's fault?" EffieBlack Jan 2017 #16

Is the number 44 significant? HassleCat Jan 2017 #19

Because those Democrats haven't set themselves up to be mavericks who buck the "establishment" EffieBlack Jan 2017 #31

No Democratic Senator spoke negatively about President Obama, either. Bernie did. He even BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #55

Huh? You seem to contradict the first part of you post with what you wrote in the second part. brush Jan 2017 #26

If he's intent on dividing the Democrats then why was he appointed to a Dem leadership position? NWCorona Jan 2017 #41

This would have been a good opportunity to show leadership. nt ucrdem Jan 2017 #47

There are a lot of books to be sold. George II Jan 2017 #5

Books to hawk? leftofcool Jan 2017 #8

Bernie had other issues to deal with. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #17

Hee hee. narnian60 Jan 2017 #57

At least you... tonedevil Jan 2017 #18

Very warm NWCorona Jan 2017 #42

I must admit... Mike Nelson Jan 2017 #20

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #27

Where was Bernie in 2004? ucrdem Jan 2017 #21

I love Maxine Waters. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #23

She is fearless. ucrdem Jan 2017 #24

Hey you.... sheshe2 Jan 2017 #62

heya sheshe! ucrdem Jan 2017 #64

Seriously! True_Blue Jan 2017 #25

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #28

I believe Bernie was in Ft. Lauderdale and stuck in the chaos down here. Sorry to interrupt your monmouth4 Jan 2017 #29

Link? EffieBlack Jan 2017 #32

It was mentioned in the tv coverage on MSNBC..n/t monmouth4 Jan 2017 #33

Can't be true onenote Jan 2017 #34

I can only report what I heard, sorry..n/t monmouth4 Jan 2017 #35

You could acknowledge that the facts don't square with what you heard. onenote Jan 2017 #36

Would you like his itinerary? NWCorona Jan 2017 #43

if it shows how he could be caught in Fort Lauderdale onenote Jan 2017 #45

IDK, that's a good question. Ligyron Jan 2017 #38

He probably didn't want to insult the segment of Trump voters that could be reached hollowdweller Jan 2017 #44

He doesn't want to insult Trump voters so he turned his back on a loyal Democratic base EffieBlack Jan 2017 #61

... NWCorona Jan 2017 #46

Primary is over. I respectfully suggest we focus on Putin's Poodle DLevine Jan 2017 #51

It's over. Time to regroup. azmom Jan 2017 #58

Where were the other Senators in the party? 4bucksagallon Jan 2017 #65

Not "picking on" Bernie. Bernie held himself out as different, better, beyond the others EffieBlack Jan 2017 #66

Because of the people here claiming Bernie was the best leader treestar Jan 2017 #67

Sanders is not some "other Senator in the Party." He is not in our party at all. DFW Jan 2017 #69

He's a meanie!!1!!11 QC Jan 2017 #71

its irrelevant, we aren't a cult. policies and ideas, not to mention that caucusing, JCanete Jan 2017 #82

This again? HassleCat Jan 2017 #78

Holding him accountable for walking his talk is not "Bernie hate" EffieBlack Jan 2017 #79

Yes, it is, actually. HassleCat Jan 2017 #80

His talk has not been to disavow the electoral college, or to waste energy pointing at Russia JCanete Jan 2017 #81

Taking Trump, Preibus, Republicans, et al. to task for possible cuts to... SMC22307 Jan 2017 #83

He was doing all that at 1 pm on Friday? EffieBlack Jan 2017 #84