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2016 Postmortem

Warren DeMontague

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13. That's the problem with the "No one should be allowed to critically examine HRC's campaign" line.

Reply to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Thu Dec 22, 2016, 08:22 PM

Dec 2016

The fact of the matter is, she lost. Doesn't matter whether it's fair, doesn't matter whether she got more votes, doesn't matter if all these factors were lined up against her. I mean, those things DO matter, but not in the one big way that really counts; namely, on Jan 21 the person in the oval office is gonna be the person who won the contest as it is set up.

So of course she could have done better, just like Al Gore and John Kerry could have done better. They could have done better enough to actually win the part that counts.

If there's no room for improvement, we're screwed, because this level of performance isn't gonna cut it.

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Yes, Clinton won more votes than Trump. But good luck convincing Rust Belt voters... [View all] YoungDemCA Dec 2016 OP

The "goddamned truth" is bigotry is what carried the EC vote for Trump duffyduff Dec 2016 #1

There was a lot more going on than bigotry and sexism Amishman Dec 2016 #6

I would rank bigotry as the number 1 issue and I DO live in a rust belt state. Adrahil Dec 2016 #9

Since when is voters voting against their own self interest anything new? dionysus Dec 2016 #11

Rust belt voters who ranked the economy as their priority chose Hillary. yardwork Dec 2016 #12

"Clinton won more votes than Trump. But good luck convincing Rust Belt voters..." NCTraveler Dec 2016 #2

Thank you. duffyduff Dec 2016 #3

"The focus needs to be on the one-half of the voting-age population who does not vote." NCTraveler Dec 2016 #4

I doubt this kind of patronizing advice would be spewed if our nominee had been a man. duffyduff Dec 2016 #5

"The focus needs to be on the one-half of the voting-age population who does not vote." Agreed! YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #14

I'm convinced that the "rust" in the "Rust Belt" is primarily in their brains. n/t MANative Dec 2016 #7

You're not wrong. NT Adrahil Dec 2016 #10

Racist sexist bigoted MFM008 Dec 2016 #8

That's the problem with the "No one should be allowed to critically examine HRC's campaign" line. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #13