2016 Postmortem

Garrett78

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43. Nothing cuts off potential voters the way a caucus does.

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 02:48 PM

Dec 2016

I'm fine with every state having an open or semi-open primary. But many persons with jobs, kids, disabilities or a desire to keep their vote private are disinclined to participate in a caucus.

Do away with caucuses.

The bottom line is you must have the support of the party's base, which Sanders did not.

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Hillary won 13 out of the 23 open primaries [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 OP

Democrats should choose their nominee. I do not want someone who isn't a Democrat still_one Dec 2016 #1

That's a fine view to hold. What I don't like La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #2

You are absolutely right Priyanka still_one Dec 2016 #4

Who cares any more. It's all,over. pangaia Dec 2016 #3

People who want to learn lessons and make changes do La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #5

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2016 #6

Maybe just ignore this forum then. This is the postmortem forum. JTFrog Dec 2016 #7

You have no idea whether that would be true or not. Kentonio Dec 2016 #8

Ok, but any data that currently exists supports my hypothesis La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #9

There is no data to support either argument. Kentonio Dec 2016 #11

There is data clearly demonstrating that she wins La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #12

Ok, so if we also have 'data' showing that more people wearing blue in debates Kentonio Dec 2016 #13

The former has causation, yours merely correlation. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #15

I was using a reductio ad absurdum of course Kentonio Dec 2016 #16

Good luck winning the Dem. Party nomination without doing well in the South. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #21

You mean like all those caucuses Sanders won? mythology Dec 2016 #41

Why don't we find out next time by making them all open primaries? Kentonio Dec 2016 #42

Nothing cuts off potential voters the way a caucus does. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #43

I'm fine with doing away with caususes. Kentonio Dec 2016 #44

But she didn't win them all so WhiteTara Dec 2016 #10

No doubt about it. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #14

Yeah, kid gloves Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #18

They didn't touch him. Complete kid gloves. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #19

Hardly anyone made mention of Bernie's rape article, association with communists, etc. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #20

Yeah. Nobody talked about except CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #25

See my response below. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #40

the eichenwald essay happened after the election La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #22

I'm aware of that. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #23

it was never fully exploited, there were no add run on it La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #24

. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #26

jake tapper was a clinton surrogate? La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #29

Wait. What are discussing here? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #34

Clinton never exploited these giant flaws in Sanders. That is my point. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #38

Yes Jake Tapper and all of them - Clinton Surrogates. JHan Dec 2016 #37

Yeah, that about sums it up. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #32

You were so engaged you skipped the debates? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #27

again he was asked during a debate. this is not a clinton add, or a clinton high level surrogate La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #35

Not playing these silly games. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #45

actually Tapper does a lot of reporting. just because you think Sanders should have been the nominee La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #46

Do away with caucuses and have every primary be open or semi-open. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #17

If she was not our nominee we would not have president trump bowens43 Dec 2016 #28

it does make a literal trend, it is the majority of open primaries La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #33

Sad you have to say this. It like people make their own reality up and live by it bravenak Dec 2016 #30

in this fantasy Clinton only wins rigged closed primaries La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #31

He could only beat her in caucuses where working people had no time to attend bravenak Dec 2016 #36

I really want to get rid of the undemocratic caucuses Gothmog Dec 2016 #39

Kick for facts then.. they're always interesting. Cha Dec 2016 #47

Of course, but if you want to talk about the conditions of that primary you have to talk about what JCanete Dec 2016 #48

Most of Sanders so-called victories were in caucuses Gothmog Dec 2016 #49