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2016 Postmortem

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Bill USA

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Mon Dec 19, 2016, 06:35 PM Dec 2016

media narrative that Dems lost 'working class whites' is BS. the split was the ol' rural vs urban [View all]


I kept hearing M$M talking heads saying that the Dems lost the working class whites - Hillary's fault - but the split was the same old rural vs urban voters. It's the same old story we've seen for decades. Rural people swallow GOP Bullshit, Hillary demonization and xenophobia, while urban voters are sophisticated enough to laugh at GOP propaganda. IT's been this way for decades .. as long as I can remember.


How the Election Revealed the Divide Between City and Country
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/clinton-trump-city-country-divide/507902/


Trump’s victory was an empire-strikes-back moment for all the places and voters that feel left behind in an increasingly diverse, post-industrial, and urbanized America. Squeezing bigger margins from smaller places, Trump overcame a tide of resistance in the largest metropolitan areas that allowed Clinton to carry the national popular vote, but not the decisive Electoral College.

This election thus carved a divide between cities and non-metropolitan areas as stark as American politics has produced since the years just before and after 1920. That year marked a turning point: It was the first time the Census recorded that more people lived in urban than non-urban areas. That tangible sense of shifting influence triggered a series of political and social conflicts between big cities teeming with immigrants, many of them Catholic, and small towns and rural communities that remained far more homogeneously, white, native-born, and Protestant.

This year, Hillary Clinton pushed that model just past the breaking point. Pending final results, she now leads in 88 of the nation’s 100 largest counties (including D.C.). Suffering a slight decline in African American support, Clinton did not quite match Obama’s vote margins in some crucial metropolitan areas, particularly Detroit, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia.

But overall, she delivered a dominant performance in most urban centers and many affluent white-collar suburbs. She held Trump to less than one-fourth of the vote in such mega-counties as Manhattan, Cook (Chicago), and Los Angeles; expanded on Obama’s margins in growing Sunbelt cities such as Miami, Charlotte, and Houston; and utterly routed Trump in thriving new economy centers like Austin, Silicon Valley, and Seattle. At latest tally, Clinton won the nation’s 100 largest counties by fully 12.6 million votes—an historic lead certain to widen with many more West Coast ballots yet to count.


Of the Country's 100 Largest Counties, These 25 Provided the Greatest Democratic Margin of Victory (please go to link to see chart of largest counties vote split between Clinton and Putin's Pet (it's a In-line frame which references some proprietary software that builds a chart using data from a proprietary data-base) not a picture.]-Bill USA)

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As someone who comes from a rural area I find this offensive NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #1
Agreed. I know a pretty even split of rural and urban folks. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #2
my freinds & relatives who live in rural areas would be offended by your characterization of rural Bill USA Dec 2016 #3
Many small towns in the rust belt don't have many markets left NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #4
your implying that my comnt 3 was NOT honest is typical RW argument by invective & implied moral Bill USA Dec 2016 #8
I'd love it if you explain why those rural people who need that welfare kcr Dec 2016 #5
Go ahead and completely ignore the point since it's always a suffering competition NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #6
Liberal elite is an old right wing stereotype for Democrats True_Blue Dec 2016 #11
I couldn't find an email for Brownstein but he has a twitter account..url provided Bill USA Dec 2016 #14
Someone who thinks it's cool to post personal information kcr Dec 2016 #15
help me out here: please identify "personal information" in my comnt 14. Bill USA Jan 2017 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author kcr Jan 2017 #17
I never saw your self deleted and probably amusingly adolescent remark. So Sorrrrrryyyy...LOL Bill USA Jan 2017 #18
"...100% focus on LGBT rights, being able to legally get high for the fun..." DanTex Dec 2016 #12
The m$m still pimping for drumpf Cha Dec 2016 #7
There's more than rural and urban. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #9
Lots of black folk live in rural areas, too - where do they fit in to this scenario? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #10
True, though I think Orange's election treestar Dec 2016 #13
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