2016 Postmortem

AgadorSparticus

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28. I have been saying this repeatedly that it is a news problem.

Sun Dec 18, 2016, 11:12 AM

Dec 2016

The media is A BIG PROBLEM. They are choosing ore elections and we point or fingers at everything but the media's involvement.

Just look at DU and the myriad of reasons why she lost. She has lost because of her emails. She lost because she didn't fill stadiums. She didn't connect to rural folks. She doesn't connect to nonprofessionals. She didn't smile enough. She smiled too much. It was because of Bernie. It wasn't because of Bernie. It was because she was too confident. It was because she is an insider. It was because she doesn't excite people. It was because she wasn't democratic enough.....

The excuses never ends. But people seldom really put the blame on the billshit propaganda media machine for what it is.

It is because of our media that I place the blame on Trump being where he is. I blame the media entirely. They pushed him through the Republican primaries. No one had a chance. And we should have seen that coming and addressed the blood that is on the media's hands.

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Fake news is a convenient scapegoat, but the big 2016 problem was the real news [View all] kentuck Dec 2016 OP

i'd file the email, benghazi, and clinton foundation stories under fake news as well. unblock Dec 2016 #1

And, of course, they have to tell "both sides." Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #9

I agree with the fact that the MSM failed, but with the numbers so close Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #2

But it was the "real news" that got it close to begin with... kentuck Dec 2016 #3

Again, I agree. I just think we also need to consider and try to combat Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #5

Absolutely! kentuck Dec 2016 #7

This is the problem with Dems. I can't tell you the number of BS chain emails Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #8

They have little regard for other people's feelings. kentuck Dec 2016 #14

That doesn't correlate with the election results though. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #13

Airtime was the single biggest factor underpants Dec 2016 #4

exactly. interesting that she had big leads in the polls after the conventions and debates. unblock Dec 2016 #10

The. TV Media Made a God out of Trump McKim Dec 2016 #25

there were many things that went wrong. one is 8 year incumbency of one party La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #6

the gnewz trying to make their failure to expose RUMP + FELLATING him instead pansypoo53219 Dec 2016 #11

Nonsense it all boils down to not enough dems voting Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #12

The media affects voter turn-out. The media affects American opinion on voter suppression and JCanete Dec 2016 #16

Well it's easy ignore the conservative media and vote for the Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #17

still focusing on symptoms. If that's where you want to spend your energy, fine, but people aren't JCanete Dec 2016 #19

It seems that you see lack of voting as a symptom Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #22

but registered democrats come in a range of packages...a wide fucking range of packages. The media JCanete Dec 2016 #23

Well the dems have been using this model of the voting Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #24

YES! The only thing is that we keep thinking the media is shitty just because. Or maybe because JCanete Dec 2016 #15

They spent 3 time the number of hours on email than all other issues... fuck the M$M uponit7771 Dec 2016 #18

Its nice to be on the same page once in a while. Don't you think its time though, that we say JCanete Dec 2016 #20

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #21

I think they didn't know they were playing with fire. BayouBengal07 Dec 2016 #26

While fake news may not have been responsible for the result... Garrett78 Dec 2016 #27

I have been saying this repeatedly that it is a news problem. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #28

In America the Media is a problem! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #29

Years ago, I traveled oversees and was shocked to see the difference in news content AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #30