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2016 Postmortem

ucrdem

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30. Do you have a link?

Reply to Jean-Jacques Roussea (Original post)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:38 PM

Dec 2016

A lot depends on who's counting what when and how. Clinton won in California by 4.3 million votes. That's from the Secretary of State. You don't win by that kind of margin by being uninspiring. She also beat Sanders handily here, too. And if you want my frank opinion what Sanders had going for him was that he made it okay to despise certain prominent Democrats, or in other words authorized non-PC conversation, and there's nothing particularly praiseworthy about that.

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Youth vote 2008: 66% for Obama / Youth vote 2016 55% for Hillary [View all] Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 OP

The primary! hrmjustin Dec 2016 #1

Exactly. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #2

2008 or 2016? dogman Dec 2016 #3

2016 hrmjustin Dec 2016 #10

Odd since that is the Primary she won. dogman Dec 2016 #14

On this we disagree! hrmjustin Dec 2016 #16

wonder what the exit polls showed? triron Dec 2016 #4

Nor did he have too many primary candidates tearing him down at every turn uponit7771 Dec 2016 #11

3 AM hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #32

perhaps the first stat is one of the main reasons for the second JustinL Dec 2016 #5

The answer is right there in your first sentence. mtnsnake Dec 2016 #6

Looks like difference was in youth vote going to 3rd party candidates triron Dec 2016 #7

2008 anomoly ... what were the 2012 numbers? tia uponit7771 Dec 2016 #8

67% Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #9

Yes, but the AARP cover-model standard did work for Sanders. lapucelle Dec 2016 #19

Romney was literally a stock photo of "Rich White Man in His 60s" Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #22

I saw a round table discussion with a group of first graders concernig the candidates. lapucelle Dec 2016 #23

Even though their policy positions are basically the same, Clinton is... Garrett78 Dec 2016 #12

very good points. spooky3 Dec 2016 #28

Obama was everything Hillary wasn't. Kotya Dec 2016 #13

Sanders would've broke a hip, but Hillary could've really done to invoke those "identity politics" Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #17

But his margin in 2012 narrowed despite his being young, cool, etc. A YUGE factor in 2008 spooky3 Dec 2016 #26

wonder how much triron Dec 2016 #15

Well, for starters, they spent their whole lives in a bubble of anti-Clinton foam... JHB Dec 2016 #18

Excellent points triron Dec 2016 #20

Agree. spooky3 Dec 2016 #27

I think the real damage came from those in the progressive wing lapucelle Dec 2016 #21

And heard her speak against same-sex marriage and pot legalization. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #36

South Park wasn't exactly pro-tRump either pstokely Dec 2016 #24

it humanized him to a degree Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #25

Mr Garrison isn't supposed to beloved pstokely Dec 2016 #29

Do you have a link? ucrdem Dec 2016 #30

If only she endorsed marijuana legalization. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #31

+1000 Eom Arazi Dec 2016 #35

do stoners even come out and vote if weed legalization isn't on the ballot? pstokely Dec 2016 #37

The sad part is that she was a campus rock star while she was SoS. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #33

didn't hurt in 2008 pstokely Dec 2016 #38

HRC waited for about 3 days to get on board after losing the last primary... SaschaHM Dec 2016 #40

you nailed it in your first sentence. there is nothing else. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #34

Samantha Bee's funny explanation... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #39

LOL, oh dear, MUCH shade! Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #41