2016 Postmortem

JCanete

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96. To think like this you have to have a far rosier view of our political system than actually exists.

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:15 PM

Dec 2016

Insiders play ball. Insiders are all about making sausage, with like people or something, and corporate interests must come first, because these are wheelings and dealings done quietly, behind closed doors. Nobody is going to the people to get them to demand anything. They are coming to the people with some token achievements that they got by giving away the cow.

Your illusion that Sanders couldn't build coalitions because he isn't good at it or interested, ignores the far bigger issue...that he is an irritation to politicians who are all about back-scratching. There is no such thing as being truly accepted into that fold unless you fall in line and start giving to get...giving a lot, of the commons...to get something you can sell to the people.

But, since you missed it, the BFD is that the DNC has a vested interest in pretending it likes democracy and that it operates according to the will of its members. But the behavior of the establishment, which put its thumb collectively on the scale of the primary, pulls down the curtain and suggests a story of brokering. That isn't something that is convenient for our Party, and I for one, as a long time democrat am NOT okay with it.

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BFD!!! [View all] CajunBlazer Dec 2016 OP

#Endorsed. JHan Dec 2016 #1

Amen! leftofcool Dec 2016 #2

..and the endless bashing continues.... TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #3

I saw an article on yahoo talking about how the DNC is working hard to prepare to lose again in 2020 rwsanders Dec 2016 #14

I don't trust Yahoo stories when it is clear it has an agenda question everything Dec 2016 #24

It was a link to somewhere else, but basically the idea was the DNC is not prepared to adjust rwsanders Dec 2016 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #31

Good work on 'uniting without acrimony.' elleng Dec 2016 #4

Is that all you have to say. Thanks for agreeing with my post. CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #25

Why does this OP exist? It seems that's the only way people can generate high View/Post counts TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #57

It exist because certain posters Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #72

That's a pretty weak reply. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #80

What's weak Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #86

Remember, it's our Party too. Exilednight Dec 2016 #83

Then respect those of us who were not for Bernie Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #87

The knife cuts both ways. Exilednight Dec 2016 #91

It wasn't just Hillary's fault...Bernie and many others had their hand in the dirty deed. Auntie Bush Dec 2016 #101

Bernie had no hand in Hillary going down. Exilednight Dec 2016 #102

The DNC and Hillary supporters didn't want Bernie Sanders. Millions of Democrats did. Congratz think Dec 2016 #5

The DNC Is Not Bernie Sanders Personal PR Agency otohara Dec 2016 #19

Not all single payer is going to work. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #68

Sanders supporters alienated themselves CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #26

That sounds like a winning strategy bekkilyn Dec 2016 #38

How about treating Sanders supporters as your equals? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #62

She got elected because she got more votes. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #69

Not elected, nominated. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #79

Except, she DIDN'T "get elected". BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #107

Guess what? DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #56

THAT misinformation campaign is the kind of thing REPUBLICANS do. BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #63

If that were true, he would have won the primary...he didn't Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #67

DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2016 #6

Why did Debbie Wasserman schultz resign the day before the convention? think Dec 2016 #7

To avoid being the story since the people screaming about the DNC bias mythology Dec 2016 #12

controversy...it was an attempt to try to heal division. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #70

So why are we recycling this again? HassleCat Dec 2016 #8

Because, unless you been living under a rock, you have noticed.... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #28

I guess I was confused. HassleCat Dec 2016 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #112

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Tell you what Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #88

I guess we have to banish ourselves HassleCat Dec 2016 #99

K&R sheshe2 Dec 2016 #9

You notice Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #17

Oh yes indeed.... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #18

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Tell me what is constructive Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #89

I was amused when the Sanders savants celebrated Ralston's firing from his newspaper lapucelle Dec 2016 #10

Even O'Malley stated the DNC debate process was rigged. The DNC chose one candidate think Dec 2016 #11

Oh give it up, you're wasting your time CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #30

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Thank you. I'm reading them Arazi Dec 2016 #52

Good lord.. JHan Dec 2016 #55

Sanders lost by 3,000,000 votes because the voters preferred Hillary. lapucelle Dec 2016 #64

So...how's that "unite without acrimony" drive going? FailureToCommunicate Dec 2016 #13

Why worry about unity when there's a shitty blog to be flogged? n/t QC Dec 2016 #20

If I wanted to push my "shitty" blog.... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #37

I read your blog. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #71

That's a high complement....Thank you CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #75

Thank you Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #15

He Couldn't/Can't Call For Party Unity Like Hillary Did otohara Dec 2016 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #39

That is not true and insulting towards Democrats. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #95

He is still not a democrat Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #90

That is why I am still so angry with Bernie...is it not enough he cost us 2016...does Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #73

And the Civil War re-enactors take the field again. mac56 Dec 2016 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #40

Divide and Conquer Martin Eden Dec 2016 #22

And, he actively campaigned against Demcoratic candidates - Vermont governor, the most notorious question everything Dec 2016 #23

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I'm not sure how to tell you this, but not all Democratics PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #27

No, the establishment didn't succeed, Sanders failed CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #44

Okay, then if you're right about Sanders failed, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #48

What did they do? BainsBane Dec 2016 #53

Let it go people, humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #29

and the republicans are enjoying seeing the split ......... Kathy M Dec 2016 #60

All you needed to have said was that last part... bekkilyn Dec 2016 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #42

You're right of course, but I'm only human CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #45

Nobody knows the truth bekkilyn Dec 2016 #54

Don't be too discouraged, bekkilyn True Dough Dec 2016 #77

I hope you're right for all our sakes bekkilyn Dec 2016 #114

I too surprised "they" even let him in race, but it raised my opinion of Democratic establishment lostnfound Dec 2016 #43

Amen, brother Hekate Dec 2016 #47

Absolutely. Party insiders and elites pick first and do what they can to make that happen. aikoaiko Dec 2016 #49

Really? How do you explain that Bernie lost among Democratic party members.... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #76

But the establishment did a whole lot of misrepresenting of Sanders AND mischaracterizing of JCanete Dec 2016 #97

The DNC has always been a reliable vehicle for Democrats. Hitchhikers oasis Dec 2016 #50

I know Sanders supporters love him and I respect that love but hrmjustin Dec 2016 #51

K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #58

If you want people to "bury the hatchet"...baiting them is the WORST way to achieve that. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #59

Agree Kathy M Dec 2016 #61

Then tell your Bernie brethren to lay off of the... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #78

Good plan! or maybe go with Gahndi's principle of "an eye for an eye will make the world go blind." JCanete Dec 2016 #98

You are right...I allow my disappointment in losing this election and I will admit it anger Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #65

"Long past time to quit re-fighting the primaries" Orsino Dec 2016 #66

Then tell your Bernie brethren to lay off of the... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #85

We will when Bernie supporters Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #92

Hint: I was responding to an OP. n/t Orsino Dec 2016 #93

Oh I know Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #94

To be fair, he appealed to angry white dudes and look where many of them went. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #81

The Myths Democrats Swallowed That Cost Them The Presidential Election Gothmog Dec 2016 #82

K&R liquid diamond Dec 2016 #84

To think like this you have to have a far rosier view of our political system than actually exists. JCanete Dec 2016 #96

Sanders tried for 25 years to change the Party from the outside... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #103

Sanders ran as that outsider and affected DNC policy and Clinton's platform. JCanete Dec 2016 #104

No one is commenting on his integrity or his good work CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #105

That is a fair statement, but I'm pretty sure that Sanders got further than JCanete Dec 2016 #106

I totally agree, especially early on in his campaign CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #108

100 kebob Dec 2016 #100

What a laughable crock of BS from top to bottom. mtnsnake Dec 2016 #109

What a totally worthless post from someone who obviously... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #110

You could seriously give Trump some competition when it comes to bullshit mtnsnake Dec 2016 #111