2016 Postmortem

SaschaHM

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35. She was the heavy favorite in 2008, very popular in the party and served the sitting president.

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:35 AM

Dec 2016

Few people wanted to waste their time. She and President Obama cleared a pretty stacked line up in 2008 of prominent party figures. And it's not just her. Second place finishers have come back multiple times and won their primary. Reagan, McCain, and Romney were all beneficiaries of having previously laid the ground game, connecting with voters in a previous primary, and getting the national recognition that comes with running. Remember the circus that Romney had to run with? His 2 "serious" contenders were a drugged up Rick Perry and a guy that just got finish working for Obama. No one wasted their time/money running against him.

Hell, if Bernie were a long time Dem and maybe younger, he could probably come back in 2020 and run with a bunch of also-rans. And no that is not a knock on Bernie's status as an Independent. I just don't see people that backed Clinton in 2016 rallying around him as opposed to a Booker/Gillibrand/Harris/Franken/Klobuchar nor do I see potential contenders showing him any deference. If Trump screws up as much as it seems like he will, the Dem 2020 primary will be very crowded.

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Agree or disagree with the following statement [View all] Ken Burch Dec 2016 OP

well guess I won't run again then :-) msongs Dec 2016 #1

If this is the first we'd heard of your 2016 candidacy, that's probably just as well. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #8

Martin O'Malley didn't seem too bad. putitinD Dec 2016 #2

That's why I voted Not Sure. TransitJohn Dec 2016 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #3

Agreed Travis_0004 Dec 2016 #4

I agree bravenak Dec 2016 #47

O'Malley probably could. temporary311 Dec 2016 #5

whoever wants to run should do it. JI7 Dec 2016 #6

I think O'Malley should run again. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #9

I think Clinton and Sanders should not run. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #13

Agree with above Kathy M Dec 2016 #17

If there's one thing this election proved, Bernie is a viable candidate ... Onlooker Dec 2016 #11

People won't want what Bernie is selling next time NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #15

Your example is ludicrous ms liberty Dec 2016 #18

VCRs first came to the US in 1977, not 1981 NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #23

Had one kinda like that. kerouac2 Dec 2016 #19

I remember the corded remotes, lol NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #24

Yep, everybody wants that $5 toaster. That's why Amazon & Wal*Mart are destroying business. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #41

That's exactly the case, and why everyone will hate the results of limiting trade NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #42

That's why the TPP really sucks. Free trade is not what you think it is. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #43

Trade is a very complicated issue that most people really don't understand fully NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #59

this. Joe941 Dec 2016 #49

Well, thankfully, almost NO ONE besides HRC sought the nomination. Gee, I wonder why that was? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #14

Chafee and Webb ran. Biden might have had his son not died. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #20

You are kidding yourself if you think there wasnt a concerted deck-clearing by the party Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #22

I suspect Warren prefers being a Senator. 14 candidates is not something to aspire to. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #28

And all that would have been a convincing argument, had she actually won the electoral college. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #29

So, you'd prefer the clusterfuck that was the GOP nominating process? TwilightZone Dec 2016 #33

You're kidding yourself if you believe there was field clearing metroins Dec 2016 #51

sure. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #60

She was the heavy favorite in 2008, very popular in the party and served the sitting president. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #35

I understand, but there have been good arguments made that the "they waited their turn" approach Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #36

Thankfully, the party won't be doing that in 2020 for the folks that ran in 2016. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #37

True, and I said many times this past year that no matter what happens, we need to expand our bench Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #40

Nah. You should have to lose twice before you should be encouraged to sit down. FBaggins Dec 2016 #16

Why shouldn't Martin O'Malley run again? n/t tammywammy Dec 2016 #21

because he's kind of the candidate equivalent of the Dave Matthews Band? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #30

None of the 3 candidates who ran in 2016 should think about seeking the 2020 nomination mtnsnake Dec 2016 #25

Dem nominee for 2020... True Dough Dec 2016 #26

You do know ol'Dwayne's a registered Rethug, right? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #32

He is! True Dough Dec 2016 #44

we need to make sure it's Democratic party Members only. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #27

Nothing good would have come from barring Bernie. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #31

After spending decades bashing the Dem party, including during the primaries. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #34

3rd party run better to you? nt JCanete Dec 2016 #45

HA there it is. You totally denied pushing Sanders and yet..... bettyellen Dec 2016 #53

Not pushing him...just not accepting the idea that he should never have run. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #58

if they dont have the jacket, they can forget it NRQ891 Dec 2016 #38

Disagree... SidDithers Dec 2016 #39

wish I liked O'malley better. He came across as inauthentic to me, but that was the JCanete Dec 2016 #46

I'm good with O'Malley seeking it again BainsBane Dec 2016 #48

Disagree LP2K12 Dec 2016 #50

Too soon to tell... Mike Nelson Dec 2016 #52

Unsure: Depends on which candidate we're talking about CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #54

Not for POTUS jack69 Dec 2016 #55

dynamic new Dems jack69 Dec 2016 #57

I would support Hillary Clinton again Gothmog Dec 2016 #56

Martin o'malley should be able to seek it again. nt La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #61

I don't think O'Malley did anything worthy of being ostracized Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #62