2016 Postmortem

jmg257

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40. They certainly were suspicious - or not.

Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:05 PM

Dec 2016

The pre-election polls vs the results were "suspicious", according to a computer scientist

"Were this year’s deviations from pre-election polls the results of a cyberattack? Probably not. I believe the most likely explanation is that the polls were systematically wrong, rather than that the election was hacked."

J. Halderman

https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to-know-if-the-election-was-hacked-look-at-the-ballots-c61a6113b0ba#.168pwqmmx

We also had these guys:

"Some data scientists and political statisticians, including FiveThirtyEight’s Nate Silver and The New York Times’ Nate Cohn, cast doubt on the claims, which compared voting in counties that used paper ballots with those that used electronic machines. Silver and Cohn said the suspicious results disappear when controlling for demographic factors like race and education"

But you are right - why not be sure? At the cost of a few million bucks - better to confirm the election results whichever way they go, and move on.

We did pick up a vote in Wisconsin!

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If this is true, something is really stinking to high heaven H gets 23,700 votes back in PA. [View all] boston bean Dec 2016 OP

From what I've seen these were "provisional" ballots that were finally counted and added jonno99 Dec 2016 #1

I read the same thing SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #2

this, its not unusual to have numbers change. and Provisional ballots and absentees usually lean D Amishman Dec 2016 #4

Greg Palast said election officials dump most of the provisional votes Kolesar Dec 2016 #8

Clearly, we are going to need to push through legislation, if we ever get Congress back, Ken Burch Dec 2016 #11

He said the same thing about California during the primaries. I don't know how other states do it still_one Dec 2016 #12

In Virginia SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #17

of course adequate checks are done to insure double voting isn't occurring, the person still_one Dec 2016 #19

Agree SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #20

Why were these states called? mcar Dec 2016 #3

because the number of votes outstanding was not enough to come close to swinging the election Amishman Dec 2016 #5

ALL states do this.... texasmomof3 Dec 2016 #6

If a recount in any of the three states humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #7

it should undermine it Skittles Dec 2016 #9

Agreed... ificandream Dec 2016 #10

I just can't imagine humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #18

Trump's supporters are fanatical and conspiratorial, radius777 Dec 2016 #37

This (DU won't let me add carats) spooky3 Dec 2016 #27

"Toned down," rather than "spiffed up," thankfully. maddiemom Dec 2016 #32

Exactly, it is already undermined, the election was a sham, radius777 Dec 2016 #38

This Is Basically The Electoral Equivalent of The Olympic Committee Announcing TrollBuster9090 Dec 2016 #13

Remember Beverly and black box voting? Keith Olbermann, only voice in the media - 2004. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2016 #14

I have to say, if the situations were exactly reversed, and it was Trump calling for a recount -- byronius Dec 2016 #15

Turns out exit polls were pretty much acurate, and trump won in states they said he would. jmg257 Dec 2016 #16

"Turns out"?? The recounts have not been done yet. spooky3 Dec 2016 #28

I know the recounts haven't been finsihed; it is the exit polls are pretty much on. nt jmg257 Dec 2016 #29

Unless you assume that the recounts will NOT spooky3 Dec 2016 #34

Indeed - I am making that assumption, due to lack of evidence of another alternative. jmg257 Dec 2016 #36

My point is that you can be wishful or not, but spooky3 Dec 2016 #39

They certainly were suspicious - or not. jmg257 Dec 2016 #40

Someone covering or trying to cover their tracks. ffr Dec 2016 #21

My gut feeling is she won all three states outright. duffyduff Dec 2016 #22

I agree with you womanofthehills Dec 2016 #35

Isn't statistically odd for all these error corrections to be in Clinton's favor? tandem5 Dec 2016 #23

definitely. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #24

The PA adjustment is not odd Amishman Dec 2016 #31

Someone is covering their back.......... UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #25

+ 1,000 Achilleaze Dec 2016 #26

How the fuck can an election be called when all this vote counting shit happens? BSdetect Dec 2016 #30

Dirty Secret is many MILLIONS of votes uncounted even weeks after election Land Shark Dec 2016 #33