2016 Postmortem

JudyM

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93. Gender is not automatically a factor in someone not voting for a woman. Particularly so if the voter

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Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:33 PM

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RIP "coronation" and "her turn." Sad BS memes finally pass their expiration date. [View all] BobbyDrake Dec 2016 OP

There are very few leftofcool Dec 2016 #1

And the Civil War re-enactors take the field again. mac56 Dec 2016 #2

Except in this case, the dead horse is healthy, alive and still bleating. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #3

When I've encountered them, yes, I have done so. mac56 Dec 2016 #9

Nothing personal, but... ybbor Dec 2016 #133

LanternWaste is correct... BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #8

Wait a minute, you checked me out? mac56 Dec 2016 #10

Exposing hypocrisy is never creepy. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #21

Exactly! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #97

Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify your stalking behavior. mac56 Dec 2016 #99

Painful truth? Checking threads isn't stalking WhiteTara Dec 2016 #104

I wondered if maybe I'd returned to DU too soon. mac56 Dec 2016 #105

It's always been like this. Rex Dec 2016 #109

No, I've been here since very nearly the beginning. mac56 Dec 2016 #112

So have I. Rex Dec 2016 #113

Engage or not however you want. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #145

My heart will go on. mac56 Dec 2016 #153

This Is The Postmortem Forum otohara Dec 2016 #83

It's not a useful post mortem... Begabig Dec 2016 #88

All I See Is More Slime Being Thrown @ Hillary otohara Dec 2016 #91

She deserves the blame for the loss... Begabig Dec 2016 #95

The toxic element of the Sanders wing deserves much of the blame, lapucelle Dec 2016 #127

Bernie folks voted for her in huge numbers, more than she would have had if he had not run. Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #142

I'm not disputing the hard work that many Sanders supporters engaged in lapucelle Dec 2016 #144

Yeah...the were self fulfilling...the prmary made them happen... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #165

So.... Begabig Dec 2016 #167

Yes, during a crucial election year that is exactly what should have happened...now Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #168

That mindset is why talk about it being "her turn" or a "coronation" lingered... Begabig Dec 2016 #169

Once again, if you don't believe how I believe... Raster Dec 2016 #4

One of your questions is easy to answer DFW Dec 2016 #5

Nicely put, DFW. (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #7

Like Pete Seeger once said: DFW Dec 2016 #15

Why are people Cubs fans? Cary Dec 2016 #12

Hey, my brother-in-law is a Cubs fan! DFW Dec 2016 #14

Nothing against Cubs fans, mind you. Cary Dec 2016 #96

Yes, please! betsuni Dec 2016 #6

One thing about the Green Party recounts. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #11

It's true they can't win without us (us meaning Democratic Party) Exilednight Dec 2016 #13

Three weeks out Plucketeer Dec 2016 #66

Yep, its all Bernie's fault hueymahl Dec 2016 #103

Almost thought this was a Rude Pundit piece BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #16

You mean melman Dec 2016 #43

Yeah I'd be cringing if I hated Hillary past the point of common sense right now ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #56

Rude doesn't mince words and neither did the OP. nt BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #114

Openly gendered terms like..."I'm With Her"? MadDAsHell Dec 2016 #17

Way to tap into rightwing talking points! Nicely played. Buzz Clik Dec 2016 #23

My bad, you're right. Our physical characteristics ARE what defines us. nt MadDAsHell Dec 2016 #25

Pretty poor form to assume people voted for her because she has a vagina... JHan Dec 2016 #30

This is completely false mcar Dec 2016 #26

One reason so many weren't paying attention is the media. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #61

Yeah, and I'll bet if she was elected she'd want to be sworn in on the steps of the Capitol! George II Dec 2016 #122

How dare she! mcar Dec 2016 #124

UGH ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #55

"campaigns that are solely focused on "making history"' Garrett78 Dec 2016 #72

this- agreed 100% JHan Dec 2016 #101

If she broke that glass ceiling in the Jacob Javits Center... GummyBearz Dec 2016 #123

What the heck are you talking about? Fla Dem Dec 2016 #129

Wish I Could Recommend Me. Dec 2016 #18

What a sad OP. MelissaB Dec 2016 #19

There was this sense though that it was "her turn". alarimer Dec 2016 #24

It sure is. MelissaB Dec 2016 #28

She was fully qualified to run for a position that is open to anyone. Anyone else could have run. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #29

Talk about whining... MelissaB Dec 2016 #32

Link to where I said she lost because she's a woman or stop replying. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #33

Project much? MelissaB Dec 2016 #41

You're the one not acknowleding what you won't see, not me. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #50

Fail again, but keep trying. MelissaB Dec 2016 #59

Well, I think the people who let their side used sexist terms is what is offensive and divisive. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #69

Insane. MelissaB Dec 2016 #77

Because that always works right? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #86

Can't see what ya don't look at, I keep saying it... easier to blame than to try to understand. JudyM Dec 2016 #34

Some people here don't even try to understand. MelissaB Dec 2016 #49

Exactly right, Melissa. Apparently thinking like tRump: if you shout the same malarky over and over JudyM Dec 2016 #58

She came off as entitled and her negatives scientifically validated it BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #35

LOL @ your irony. "She came off as entitled" is nothing BUT "hurt feelings." BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #39

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #42

With a tiny handful of candidates... Begabig Dec 2016 #111

Many of you who claim that still also sat silent while your allies used those terms. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #27

My "allies used those terms"??? MelissaB Dec 2016 #31

You saw those terms posted here; what did you do about it? BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #51

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #63

If you can't answer, just admit it. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #73

You are trying to use reason here? JudyM Dec 2016 #62

Tell us why her "corporate and Wall Street ties" BainsBane Dec 2016 #90

this is breathtaking- 'Why was it so horrible for Clinton to acquire wealth from speeches ' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #132

That was what she got paid for giving speeches. What is wrong with that? SunSeeker Dec 2016 #140

because many see it as a laundered bribe nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #143

"Many" would be right wingers, like the poutrage over Benghazi and emails. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #148

I guess you're counting Bernie as one of those 'Right Wingers' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #149

Bernie is not a Dem. His bullshit personal attacks on Hillary were gleefully picked up by Trump. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #150

but you said the 'many' are 'right wingers, you didn't say 'not Dem' nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #151

Yes, many are right wingers. That is an accurate statement. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #152

What was the quid pro quo? BainsBane Dec 2016 #154

in the courtroom of the election secret ballot NRQ891 Dec 2016 #155

That is not quid pro quo BainsBane Dec 2016 #156

'And appearances are absolutely not admissible in a court of law' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #157

Your defense for your blatantly false allegation BainsBane Dec 2016 #158

' And in the primary they voted for Hillary.' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #159

One does not' follow from the other BainsBane Dec 2016 #160

very true, on all counts heaven05 Dec 2016 #20

I couldn't have said it better. duffyduff Dec 2016 #22

Pure supposition. Just because people dislike a candidate doesn't mean it's because of gender. JudyM Dec 2016 #36

It is fact. Sorry. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #64

There may have been legitimate concerns, and gender had nothing to do with it. Ardent feminists JudyM Dec 2016 #70

I would argue that "ardent" feminists ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #87

Gender is not automatically a factor in someone not voting for a woman. Particularly so if the voter JudyM Dec 2016 #93

No, but dismissing sexist barriers is not the hallmark of an ardent feminist either. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #102

No dismisssal, in fact there has been widespread acknowledgement of that general state of things, JudyM Dec 2016 #106

and yet a whole bunch of women voted against her. Ligyron Dec 2016 #117

You really want Bernie's supporters to leave the party? Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #37

This post is addressed to the memes. FFS, reading comprehension much? BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #44

You do make a good point here... Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #52

Agreed. nt BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #53

That's how the 'you' was intended melman Dec 2016 #82

yep, I have a major problem with Bobby's . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #139

Exactly right! I voted for the corporate candidate this time, but don't keep pushing me. MelissaB Dec 2016 #46

Hint: it was sexism ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #71

Please educate me hueymahl Dec 2016 #135

If Bernie supporters leave because they can't take criticism ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #60

There is a difference between criticism and insults. Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #76

There is plenty of blame to spread around ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #85

Yes. Leave. Indydem Dec 2016 #121

Exactly ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #38

HRC left the GOP at 19, Elizabeth Warren waited until her 40s. Who's the progressive icon? BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #47

Oh so many example of hypocrisy--so little time. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #54

The endless criticism of her clothes mcar Dec 2016 #125

So Sanders supporters can be labeled as "pathetic" and "sexist," but Clinton supporters can't be? nt MadDAsHell Dec 2016 #40

I think you've got that right. MelissaB Dec 2016 #48

That's not even a real arguement. It's nothing but a poorly-constructed straw man. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #57

Who on the Sanders side said Hillary shouldn't run because she's a woman? liberalnarb Dec 2016 #107

Some could ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #65

K&R radical noodle Dec 2016 #45

So the GOP is a mirror to the DNC SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2016 #67

This OP is offensive and divisive. MelissaB Dec 2016 #68

Then trash it, instead of cutting-and-pasting the same reply over and over. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #74

LOL! I've been here a LONG time, dear. MelissaB Dec 2016 #75

Hmmm. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #79

Hummm. You think I'm going somewhere? MelissaB Dec 2016 #80

No you reminded me of someone right there ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #81

Must be a really great poster MelissaB Dec 2016 #94

Hmm... TwilightZone Dec 2016 #100

That's the point. Rex Dec 2016 #110

I agree, it is offensive and divisive. Ligyron Dec 2016 #118

Way off base man! KPN Dec 2016 #78

Great post. Rec. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #84

passive aggressive pasture puck.... mike_c Dec 2016 #89

I love the Hillary 'Deal with it'. gif in the OP NRQ891 Dec 2016 #120

She never said that, and no one ever claimed she said it. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #92

Misunderstand much!? Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #98

I think you misunderstood the intention of the OP with this post. StevieM Dec 2016 #126

Don't worry--- "SHE's GOT THIS!" BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #108

Woah! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #115

yep, a lot of dems bought the RW propaganda, or were flat out sexist. no surprise. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #116

K&R brer cat Dec 2016 #119

Bad memes, bad memes. azmom Dec 2016 #128

Not HRC, but someone with the gravitas of Donna Brazile acknowledged the "coronation" aikoaiko Dec 2016 #130

I think I'm in love . . . EffieBlack Dec 2016 #131

I have alerted the Mods on this post . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #134

Why would you alert his post? akbacchus_BC Dec 2016 #141

Dear AKB . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #162

ROFLMAO BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #146

k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #136

These are BobbyClark's anti-Bernie smears from yesterday . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #137

It's "BobbyDrake," actually. But thanks for the bumps. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #147

Come on Mr. Babby, put up . . !! FairWinds Dec 2016 #161

Right there with you on this. JudyM Dec 2016 #163

Another free bump? Yes, please! BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #164

If you haven't figured it out yet for Babby, it's all about the attention. mac56 Dec 2016 #166

Gaff alert . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #138