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2016 Postmortem

still_one

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18. While I don't completely agree with all your characterizations, I do agree with the point

Reply to PatsFan87 (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 11:23 AM

Dec 2016

you are making that one size does not fit all.

It depends on the state. You cannot expect a liberal to win in a conservative state, just as you cannot expect a conservative to win in a liberal state, and those of us who make up the Democratic party need to understand that.

That is why Howard Dean's 50 state strategy was so successful.

He didn't go into a red or purple state and push for choice, or other issues that a more conservative state would not subscribe to, but rather focus on the issues that were common to everyone no matter what state you were in. Jobs, healthcare, social security, medicare, etc.

It is going to be a long road back, and it will have to start at the local and state levels

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was 'left vs right' giving way to 'populist vs establishment' the message of the 2016 election? [View all] NRQ891 Dec 2016 OP

Then explain to me why Russ Feingold and Zyper, Teachout lost? Why did every swing state Democrat still_one Dec 2016 #1

Large amount of cash funded non-stop ads calling Feingold the establishment candidate. andym Dec 2016 #6

I was following Teachout's race very closely and can attest to this. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #10

at least you gave me an answer, though it doesn't hold water. Johnson was the establishment still_one Dec 2016 #11

Knowlegeable voters knew where they stood-- but they are a minority andym Dec 2016 #12

I think people did know the issues. We're just going to disagree. Scott Walker won multiple times still_one Dec 2016 #13

All the Democrats were liberals except Kirkpatrick? PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #15

While I don't completely agree with all your characterizations, I do agree with the point still_one Dec 2016 #18

A lot of republicans thought Hillary was going to win - most people did NRQ891 Dec 2016 #16

donald trump is a celebrity. that is more important than any reason issue IMO msongs Dec 2016 #2

I was also refering to the energy behind Sanders nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #3

Nearly all GOP incumbents won. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #4

Well said, plus 1 emulatorloo Dec 2016 #5

They got in partially because they were seen as being permissive to the change Trump would bring andym Dec 2016 #7

they didnt really think Trump would win NRQ891 Dec 2016 #17

Rate of incumbent re-election even higher than usual and most Wall Street-friendly candidate ever! Garrett78 Dec 2016 #8

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #9

I agree with everything except the clueless part. I don't think people were clueless. still_one Dec 2016 #14