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Dems to Win

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22. NAFTA
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:16 PM
Nov 2016

I made this post on another board on Sept 30, after the first debate:

The Democrats seem surprised that the 2016 election has now turned into a referendum on NAFTA, after they nominated the wife of the man who signed NAFTA's implementing legislation. I'm surprised that they are surprised.

If we elect a demagogue in 2016 it will be in large part as a backlash against NAFTA. It will be quite a direct belated rejection of the Clinton Administration, who invested so much political capital into passing NAFTA.

The worst moment for Hillary in the debate, and the best issue for Trump, was her curt dismissal of the manufacturing job losses and devastation of factory towns across the USA as "That's your opinion."

They don't call it the Rust Belt because manufacturing is booming.

NAFTA also hurt Mexican corn farmers, and sent a wave of undocumented immigrants to America. Decades later, they are still here, and their children have grown up to be Dreamers.

When one out of 20 workers in the US are exploitable, hardworking, very low wage illegal immigrants, it depresses wages for the entire working class.

Working class Americans feel a double hit from NAFTA: so many manufacturing jobs have been shipped south to Mexico, and the remaining hard jobs in the US are filled with low paid undocumented immigrants instead of native born Americans making a living wage, as it was 30 years ago.

Say what you will about Trump: he's at least noticed these people and their hardships. More than we can say about the Clinton Democrats.

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NOT voting!!!!!! benld74 Nov 2016 #1
Agree. That and the "protest" votes for neither candidate or those cast for Johnson ... Auggie Nov 2016 #11
You're right, of course Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #16
HRC Numbers are up with Obama's 2012 ...this meme is not a true factor uponit7771 Nov 2016 #17
Calling your opponent's supporters "deplorables" just motivates them to vote. PoliticAverse Nov 2016 #2
all the handwringing over that is mighty rich. Sure it was politically inconvenient, JHan Nov 2016 #4
"and there was a political price to pay for it" - that's the point. This isn't about... PoliticAverse Nov 2016 #6
You're right, I know.. Eleanor Holmes Norton was alarmed as well but.. JHan Nov 2016 #7
That's your #1 reason? NCTraveler Nov 2016 #10
Russian hacks of state vote counts CanonRay Nov 2016 #3
comey killed the momentum in the final stretch. JHan Nov 2016 #5
Other: White Evangelical Christians. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #8
A lot of it was just bad luck. We won the popular vote and lost by a hair in rust belt Quixote1818 Nov 2016 #9
Crosscheck Botany Nov 2016 #12
We ran an insider in an outsider year. Vinca Nov 2016 #13
Other: the ability of parties unknown to steal elections electronically. eom planetc Nov 2016 #14
Political cycle creates an undertow geek tragedy Nov 2016 #15
Comey should resign. HE IS A TRAITOR trueblue2007 Nov 2016 #18
Couldn't pressbox69 Nov 2016 #23
Hubris nt sarisataka Nov 2016 #19
left vs right giving way to populism vs establishment NRQ891 Nov 2016 #20
the bad luck of Weiner NRQ891 Nov 2016 #21
NAFTA Dems to Win Nov 2016 #22
and everything you said about NAFTA, Ross Perot warned of in 1992 NRQ891 Nov 2016 #26
Russian involvement and dark money flamingdem Nov 2016 #24
Low-information voters turned out to vote Retrograde Nov 2016 #25
Combination, elleng Nov 2016 #27
Media calling it for Clinton weeks ahead, Dems got cocky and mis-spent time & money. kerouac2 Dec 2016 #28
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