2016 Postmortem

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21. I completely agree. The fact is the Democratic Party needs a major rebuild - a new strategy, a new

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 10:05 AM

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message, a new coalition - the coastal/urban centric coalition has been a failure. Even if we were to somehow have some spectacular midterm landslide fall into our laps, we'd quickly lose the majority again - look at the Republicans in 1946 and 1952 and the Democrats in 2006 - all were minority parties that were suddenly swept into power because the majority party got spanked - and they were just as quickly swept out of power again because they still had the same fundamental problems that had put them in the minority in the first place.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2016 OP

Now's the time for experience with House procedures, not another protest tantrum. nt BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #1

This. nt Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #31

I hope they pick someone who can lead the caucus to achieve greater membership. David__77 Nov 2016 #2

Pelosi is pretty bad, but if you're going to replace her, at least find someone who isn't worse. jfern Nov 2016 #3

Fair enough. I have no dog in this hunt, and don't know much about Ryan. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #4

He was very anti choice until just a few years ago dsc Nov 2016 #6

Thanks for the information. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #7

Tim Ryan opposes Clinton joining the recount. GoCubsGo Nov 2016 #5

Again, I have no personal favorite in this contest. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #8

Just pointing it out to those who are unaware of it. GoCubsGo Nov 2016 #10

Thanks for that. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #12

Party needs to break with "coastal elites" mentality geek tragedy Nov 2016 #9

was feingold a coastal elite ? how about trump ? JI7 Nov 2016 #11

Surprised you are jumping aboard the "Let's Purge Liberals" bandwagon. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #13

Not purging liberals, but those whose districts geek tragedy Nov 2016 #17

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #18

If we had the majority or even if the margin in the house were close geek tragedy Nov 2016 #19

I completely agree. The fact is the Democratic Party needs a major rebuild - a new strategy, a new Midwestern Democrat Nov 2016 #21

Can you clarify this statement you made above? emulatorloo Nov 2016 #30

Those who have lost out due to changes in the economy geek tragedy Nov 2016 #33

Voters have a voice on the direction of the congress on election day. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #40

not directly, but when our coalition is inadequate to win congressional majorities geek tragedy Nov 2016 #41

The 'hurt' leader would be in red states who have to worry about re-election and given a choice Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #20

Admittedly the vast majority of youngest congresspeople are Republicans. joshcryer Nov 2016 #24

I'm getting lots of mixed messages from DU these days emulatorloo Nov 2016 #28

The general consensus is that what we're doing is not working, and needs to change. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #34

I'm lost. joshcryer Nov 2016 #37

NO ONE is saying we should throw out the base, OR stop fighting institutional bigotry Ken Burch Nov 2016 #42

It is a bad idea to put Tim Ryan Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #14

Thanks for the information. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #16

FWIW Americans for Democratic Action (liberal group) gave Pelosi a 95% "liberal quotient" ranking emulatorloo Nov 2016 #15

That the "most liberal" Dem site on the net... joshcryer Nov 2016 #23

Tim Ryan is a conservadem / blue dog joshcryer Nov 2016 #22

I think Pelosi has done well, LP2K12 Nov 2016 #25

you probably should identify it as Tim Ryan, so no one confuses it with you know who still_one Nov 2016 #26

I wondered about that. Have now changed it. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #35

I was kind of kidding around Ken, but hopefully there is no here who would even still_one Nov 2016 #36

And I'm fairly sure you aren't allowed to lead the majority and the minority at the same time. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #38

LOL, yes it would be scary still_one Nov 2016 #39

Not Pelosi Renew Deal Nov 2016 #27

I think that change might be good Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2016 #29

I heard Tim Ryan on Fox News Sunday saying that the Democrats BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #32

Since Pelosi has now been re-elected leader, I am self-deleting this poll. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #43