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JHan

(10,173 posts)
11. folks really milked that for all it was worth though.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:47 PM
Nov 2016

The brain does odd things in stressful situations - recall the Brian Williams effect:

"Clearly, Brian Williams is not alone when it comes to infamous false memories. In 2008, Senator Hillary Clinton recalled her experience in which she vividly remembered landing in Bosnia in 1996, under intense sniper fire, yet actual video of news footage showed that her group did not arrive under attack and in fact were walking calmly from the plane and in no apparent rush. Clinton’s critics accused her of deception, but she claimed she simply and honestly misremembered her experience and apologized.

George W. Bush also displayed some famous memory distortions, when, on several occasions, he told audiences that on 9/11, he had watched the first plane fly into the north tower of the World Trade Center on TV, just before entering that classroom in Florida to read a book to school kids.

All of these cases involved highly emotional moments that happened to people who are in the spotlight and doing very stressful things—and all the more reason one might think they would be hard to forget, perhaps. But just the opposite might be true under the right conditions. For Brian Williams, his trailing helicopter made an emergency landing in the desert behind the aircraft that was in fact hit (so, in fact, he saw damage to another helicopter, just not his own). Prior to landing in Bosnia, Hillary Clinton was instructed that she might have to wear a flak jacket to protect her from antiaircraft fire, and she was told her airplane might not be able to land at the airport in Bosnia because of some sniper fire in the area (thus, she was thinking about this issue prior to landing and may have had a vivid picture in her mind). Bush was told by an aide about the first crash into the World Trade Center Tower just before entering the classroom (again, he envisioned in his mind what had happened but hadn’t actually witnessed it)."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/metacognition-and-the-mind/201502/why-famous-people-aren-t-immune-false-memories

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Constantly labeling Hillary a liar worked [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2016 OP
Truth JHan Nov 2016 #1
There really were only two things I can even think of - the Benghazi deaths Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2016 #2
and our FAILURE to respond. elleng Nov 2016 #6
Also Sniper Fire MichMan Nov 2016 #7
folks really milked that for all it was worth though. JHan Nov 2016 #11
I think the whole thing about Hillary and sniper fire was total GOP bullshit. politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2016 #14
It goes to show.. JHan Nov 2016 #15
I wonder if that had anything to do with so many of her ads being focused on Trump mythology Nov 2016 #18
The distrust towards her goes back decades.. JHan Nov 2016 #19
And yet I saw many posts ... NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #30
I've been in combat TDBroke Nov 2016 #39
You're correct I think, they do have better PR and they get away with it.. JHan Nov 2016 #10
Yep WhoWoodaKnew Nov 2016 #3
It's Don the orange con who is the liar! Auntie Bush Nov 2016 #4
hmmm. we had a shot at Crooked Don - before he came up with it for Hillary. Should Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2016 #8
what did he lie about? astral Nov 2016 #20
The wall, rounding up immigrants, being able to appoint a prosecutor to go after Hillary.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #24
You have got to be joking. Just look it up - 75% lying on politifacts Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2016 #25
are you serious ? JI7 Nov 2016 #26
OMG!!! NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #31
It'd be easier to list what he didn't lie about. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #34
The only time Trump Rincewind Nov 2016 #36
The msm repeated the meme that she was not trusted constantly - a million times BSdetect Nov 2016 #5
Right ! and created the false equivalent of people thinking both are horrid choices Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2016 #9
Regardless of the hopeful message,Progressives and Dems no longer have TheDebbieDee Nov 2016 #12
Goebbels MFM008 Nov 2016 #13
It may have exacerbated the impact, but it didn't create the impression FBaggins Nov 2016 #16
Which was nonsense no? JHan Nov 2016 #37
Yep bpositive Nov 2016 #17
And that they said the same thing...unified...not 5,000 different monikers LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #21
"Don't believe the lies". kentuck Nov 2016 #22
It didn't only work with Republicans DFW Nov 2016 #23
The K.I.S.S. method Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #27
the right wing was spreading lies about hillary DesertFlower Nov 2016 #28
Starting with Wm. Saffire....who is dead. Historic NY Nov 2016 #29
It worked with Gore, too LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2016 #32
Gore, Kerry and Clinton were all branded as untrustworthy or liars andym Nov 2016 #33
Agree...you keep saying something over and over, it sticks in the minds of those who don't... iluvtennis Nov 2016 #35
Yes, but it worked because Hillary, unlike Bill and Obama, did not know how to Exilednight Nov 2016 #38
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