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Grey Lemercier

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5. Only way to fix it is a constitutional amendment. Read the Federalist papers to see why
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 12:30 PM
Nov 2016

Last edited Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:22 AM - Edit history (1)

the Framers of the Constitution walked such a tight line of balance between centralised federal power and decentralised state power.

The National Popular Vote Compact is unconstitutional as well.

The EC will never be done away with, see below

I have said so often on this board,

There is a solution

Abolition will never occur, as even if the constitutional amendment were passed in the Congress, all it takes is 13 states (the smaller ones, of course) to block it. They have way more than 13 who oppose it.

BUT there is a fix, and it just doesn't fix the electoral college. If fixes the House too.

Expand the House to 1001. That would also Expand the EC to 1106 (100 for senators, 1001 for House, plus 5 for DC). It doesnt take a Constitutional Amendment either, just an Act of Congress (overturning a 1929 Act).

Its been stuck at 435 (with 2 temp added for AK and HI for a couple years, removed in 1962) SINCE 1913!


The population then was 97 million. Now is 325 million. The average rep has almost 750,000 people in his/her district.

Because the EC is based (in the constitution) off number of congress people, increasing the House also increases the EC.

THEN you can more fairly split up those 1106 EV's and those 1001 House seats. Right now, a Wyoming electoral vote is worth 3.7 times MORE than a California vote.


Expanding the House also, of course allow for a more representational distribution for the states as well, at HOUSE government levels. California, and the other large states get FUCKED right now in very way.

The main barrier to this will be getting House members to dilute their power, PLUS Rethugs to go along, as they KNOW they have all the benefits to the current system


Read this for more info. http://www.thirty-thousand.org/

The 1001 is just my own number, you could do it so many different ways (such as the much less impactful (but still better than nothing) Wyoming Rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming_Rule , or double it, plus one (has to be odd number to avoid ties)




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I agree that all voting methods should have a proper audit trail... TreasonousBastard Nov 2016 #1
A less personal, but far more common example to me... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #7
random testing of machines is not sufficient. we need all hand-counted paper ballots. it has been d TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #9
I'm was a poll worker in NJ. no_hypocrisy Nov 2016 #2
"Why the ad lib voting system?"... because per the Constitution, the voting process is delegated to Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #3
There is no sane reason for that BSdetect Nov 2016 #4
Only way to fix it is a constitutional amendment. Read the Federalist papers to see why Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #5
I agree with your assessment except UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #6
that will take a constitutional amendment Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #8
That's fascinating. I'll have to come back to read up on it later. Hekate Nov 2016 #11
I agree that changing the size of the House would be a better way SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #13
yep, thats the Wyoming Rule I listed. I think its better than nothing Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #15
50 states. States' Rights. Each state "a laboratory for democracy." I think it should be federalized Hekate Nov 2016 #10
K&R BSdetect Nov 2016 #12
I agree PatSeg Nov 2016 #14
The farce of Bush v. Gore Danmel Nov 2016 #16
right; we've had a repub loser "win" twice in 16 years, on untrustworthy voting machines. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #18
Three times, probably DFW Nov 2016 #20
I'm afraid somebody is going to have to white hat hack and obliterate an election. tandem5 Nov 2016 #17
it may take something like that. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #19
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