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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders did NOT ... NOT say ditch identity politics !!! [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)5. Reminds me of an old general fighting the last war.
There's a lunatic heading for the White House, and it's going to get a helluva lot worse than overseas job losses or minority elites acting like white assholes.
He can't open his mouth without saying something divisive. It's not a good look.
It's all to do with selling that book, I'm afraid. This "fire up the base and make them feel like they're screwed" game sucks when Trump does it, too. And the shitting on WOMEN schtick, again? He has a problem with women. It stinks on ice--I see I wasn't the only person to notice this, and I agree with this guy's comments:
Brysynner Nov 22 · 05:05:53 AM
Worth noting that in both examples the Independent Senator from Vermont uses to explain people who use their gender or race as the sole reason to vote for them and not their policies both were women
But it is not good enough for somebody to say, Hey, Im a Latina, vote for me.
It is not good enough for someone to say, Im a woman. Vote for me!
Are there people who say this? I mean I know very few supporters might say this but is this really a problem? If I were the Independent Senator from Vermont and had connection issues with non-Millennials I might try and work on phrasing, maybe have my newly diverse staff (as of 2015) check over my speech to make sure that Im not just picking on women.
However I do applaud the Independent Senator from Vermont for going four paragraphs without jumping into his stump speech and not mentioning the millionaires and billionaires.
I'm just 'over' this kind of divisive chatter. I don't think it helps, I don't think it's valid. If you want a woman hater who purports to be a job creator, might as well look to that orange anus who is going to be sworn in come January. He's got all that sexism and xenophobia, plus racism, too.
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I agree, I would like to see a video... the link I posted is the whole thing transcribed though
uponit7771
Nov 2016
#2
Hmmmm, so "here's the way you can be the 2nd Latino Senator and please fight for the middle
uponit7771
Nov 2016
#10
I think that worst thing in this election is finding out that misogyny exists on the left as well as
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#73
The lesson of history is NOT that there should be no serious contest for the nomination.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#78
It was never Hillary or nothing. She was never the only possible winner we had.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#81
The politico link I posted had this word for word, I do agree the woman part was NOT needed at
uponit7771
Nov 2016
#6
"...how is it that he doesn't recognize white nationalism as identity politics?" True point...
uponit7771
Nov 2016
#9
Wonderful advice. Too bad that Sanders and his diehards didn't heed it before the election.
lapucelle
Nov 2016
#130
Anyone who weaponized a presidential election vote by staying home or going third party
lapucelle
Nov 2016
#128
Yeap, Obama and Clinton weren't progressive "enough" and to some that was a call for outright ...
uponit7771
Nov 2016
#13
Unfortunately, not being white males and advocating for non-white, non-male interests
forjusticethunders
Nov 2016
#15
Bernie apparently doesn't think race and gender are the most defining factors
ismnotwasm
Nov 2016
#16
I'm closer to the Marxist Left but I am well aware we have intersectionality issues to work out
forjusticethunders
Nov 2016
#47
The issue is women's autonomy, women are their own persons who make their own decisions
forjusticethunders
Nov 2016
#75
"racists and sexists:" From what I hear on DU, there are plenty right here, whatever the class.
Eleanors38
Nov 2016
#103
What "common good" can be achieved from normalizing a racist/sexist by working with them?
MADem
Nov 2016
#104
I would agree with your proposal, but it wouldn't come near matching 40+ millions.
Eleanors38
Nov 2016
#121
Often identity politics is a turnstile of approval, not a path to policy and action.
Eleanors38
Nov 2016
#106