2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I just LOVE Bernie Sanders for saying this. It is so unsexist and so unmisogynistic! [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)mythology.
I think she had the flaws of an average candidate, and had a fantastic record of actual acheivements in public life, while Bernie had fewer achievements one would expect of a career politician.
He has some dark corners that hadn't been fully lit up, but he had worshippers who passed off the stunning lack of endorsements from those progressives who had actually worked with him as "them being ashamed of themselves, feeling dirty when they compared themselves to him," and "there is absolutely nothing in those tax returns - he has nothing, and has never had anything to speak of," and "Bernie is the Buddha - he's doing this all for us, and he is suffering all this to make our lives better!!!" Not to mention, "Bernie voted for the crime bill, but he didn't mean it - SHE WAS MARRIED TO THE MAN WHO SIGNED IT, and it was her job to cheerlead everything he did!!!" and "I never heard of Sierra Blanca, or Old Towne Media, or his votes for the bombing of of Yugoslavia and invasion of Kuwait because it was an election year, so it doesn't matter and HER SPEAKING FEES!!!"
And when Hillary supporters dared to talk about her record of public service, we were shouted down with CORPORATE SHILL and SHE WANTS TO DRONE CHILDREN, SHE IS IN BED WITH WALL STREET, SHE AND BILL GET REVENGE ON EVERYONE WHO CROSSES THEM - LOOK A BIRD LANDED ON BERNIE'S PODIUM!!!
So don't talk to me about not being "able to attack Hillary" when we needed to form closed FB groups to avoid being Berniesplained at best, and viciously harassed at worst, that we women and black people and gays really didn't know what was the REAL issue was - because it was capitalism at the root of all our problems, and we are voting with our vaginas, and when Bernie takes down capitalism, sexism, racism and xenophobia will be dealt with because men will be earning what they should be earning. You know, like it was all dealt with in Europe once everyone had health care. and better pay equity... And when the new defectors to Jill Stein supporters insulted us with, "Well if you must vote for a woman, why not Jill?" and really thought that their condescending distain was clever, we just stopped, and they said, "Why is it when I ask a Hillary supporter what it is that they like about her, I never get an answer?"
Oh and "I'm not sexist because I would totes vote for Liz Warren" and then the cries of "SELLOUT" and SHILL and much worse exploded at her the minute she endorsed Hillary. But Keith Ellison seemed to have escaped that. So yeah - maybe you were muzzled on DU from trashing Hillary, but there was the rest of social media. Including the DU FB page.
So I blame Saint Bernie and his disciples/bros in large part for Trump being in the White House. Those people needed a bloodthirsty, money grubbing demon for Bernie to battle, and it was Hillary. Now we have a real demon in the White House - despite what looks to be a landslide, thank you.
She got more votes than any white man - and counting - but she didn't "inspire" enough- well white men anyway, because Bernie supporters felt entitled to a candidate that was customized to their user experience, like good consumers. She really turned out the vote among actual working class people and women, (despite all of the voter suppression and demonizing) but since they are not as white as a town in Vermont, they apparently don't count.
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