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TomSlick

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20. I don't understand how having two natures means that there are two distinct persons.

Reply to Norrrm (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:49 PM

Monday

The foundation of the doctrine of the Trinity is that God has three natures, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, yet remains one God. "The LORD our God is one." Deuteronomy 6:4.

I see nothing in Jesus being eternal and assuming human form in the incarnation that means there have ever been two distinct persons.

The problem may be that God's nature as three persons yet still one God, as described in the doctrine of the Trinity, is beyond clear understanding by human minds. God understands that much is beyond human understanding. "Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand." Job 38:4.

If we were capable of understanding everything, there would be no room for faith. It is not essential that we understand the doctrine of the Trinity, only that we accept it.

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How long has God been the Trinity? Did the Trinity only start after Jesus was crucified? Norrrm Apr 18 #1

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." TomSlick Apr 18 #2

Good words but does not answer the question. Norrrm Apr 18 #3

The meaning seems clear in context. TomSlick Apr 18 #5

The direct answer if from eternity standingtall Apr 19 #6

So there were two Jesus entities existing at the same time for approx 33 years. Norrrm Apr 19 #9

No there is 1 Jesus, but that 1 Jesus has 2 nature standingtall Apr 19 #10

Then there were two Jesus entities (natures) existing at the same time for approx 33 years. Norrrm Apr 19 #11

The 2nd nature Jesus took on didn't disappear standingtall Apr 19 #12

That's ok . There were two Jesus entities (natures) existing at the same time for approx 33 years. Norrrm Apr 19 #13

The Trinity still existed from eternity though standingtall Apr 19 #14

The Trinity was not in question. You have adequately shown that for 33 years, there were two Jesus entities. Norrrm Apr 19 #15

That's not at all what is being said. TomSlick Monday #18

Refer back to 2 natures Norrrm Monday #19

I don't understand how having two natures means that there are two distinct persons. TomSlick Monday #20

Good sidetrack, pretending that Jesus having two natures is not true. Norrrm Monday #21

Vade in pace. TomSlick Monday #22

The Trinity's development The Great Open Dance Apr 19 #16

OK. It does not address that there were (still are?) two Jesus entities existing at the same time. Norrrm Apr 19 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author TomSlick Apr 18 #4

Jesus absolutely did die for our sins though standingtall Apr 19 #7

Jesus wasn't accussing of abandonment on the cross either standingtall Apr 19 #8