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16. The Trinity's development
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 08:26 AM
Apr 19

Since no historian recorded the transition from Jewish monotheism to early Christian Trinitarianism, we cannot know exactly how or why it happened. But given the vigor of the young church, we can infer that the liturgical expressions recorded in the earliest Christian Scriptures were generated within the Christian community and resonated with that community’s experience. In worship they preached, prayed, and sang the healing that they had received, a healing which came through three persons but led congregants into one body.3 In other words, the early Christian community’s experience of salvation was Trinitarian—one salvation through three persons as one God.

To assert that their experience was Trinitarian is not to assert that their theology was Trinitarian. The earliest Christians did not think the same way about God that later Christians would think. They felt that their lives had been transformed by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, whom they worshiped as one. (Please note: when discussing historical theology, we will use the traditional, gender-specific terminology of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. As the book progresses, we will substitute our own, gender-inclusive terminology.)

The early Christians’ liturgy expressed their experience, and their initial, unrecorded theological speculations reflected it. The early church laid the foundations of tripersonal (three person) theism on the experience of tripersonal salvation. By the time the church wrote its new Scriptures, it could not talk about God without talking about Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Euclideans needed three lines to draw a triangle; Christians needed three persons to talk about God. So John writes: “There are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one” (1 John 5 DRA). (Sydnor, Great Open Dance, 43-44)

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How long has God been the Trinity? Did the Trinity only start after Jesus was crucified? Norrrm Apr 18 #1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." TomSlick Apr 18 #2
Good words but does not answer the question. Norrrm Apr 18 #3
The meaning seems clear in context. TomSlick Apr 18 #5
The direct answer if from eternity standingtall Apr 19 #6
So there were two Jesus entities existing at the same time for approx 33 years. Norrrm Apr 19 #9
No there is 1 Jesus, but that 1 Jesus has 2 nature standingtall Apr 19 #10
Then there were two Jesus entities (natures) existing at the same time for approx 33 years. Norrrm Apr 19 #11
The 2nd nature Jesus took on didn't disappear standingtall Apr 19 #12
That's ok . There were two Jesus entities (natures) existing at the same time for approx 33 years. Norrrm Apr 19 #13
The Trinity still existed from eternity though standingtall Apr 19 #14
The Trinity was not in question. You have adequately shown that for 33 years, there were two Jesus entities. Norrrm Apr 19 #15
That's not at all what is being said. TomSlick Monday #18
Refer back to 2 natures Norrrm Monday #19
I don't understand how having two natures means that there are two distinct persons. TomSlick Monday #20
Good sidetrack, pretending that Jesus having two natures is not true. Norrrm Monday #21
Vade in pace. TomSlick Monday #22
The Trinity's development The Great Open Dance Apr 19 #16
OK. It does not address that there were (still are?) two Jesus entities existing at the same time. Norrrm Apr 19 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author TomSlick Apr 18 #4
Jesus absolutely did die for our sins though standingtall Apr 19 #7
Jesus wasn't accussing of abandonment on the cross either standingtall Apr 19 #8
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