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standingtall

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8. Jesus wasn't accussing of abandonment on the cross either
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 03:19 AM
Apr 19

He was quoting Psalms 22:1
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

In order to fulfill it

Luke 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.


Jesus was fully God and fully human, but that doesn't mean his divine nature was locked away and inaccessible to him here on earth.Jesus did not empty himself. He humbled himself there is a big difference. Philippians 2:8
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Versions that say he emptied himself are in error. Wasn't humanity that raised Lararus from the dead.

John 10:18
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.


Jesus chose to endure the suffering as a human and would not lean on his divine nature on the cross.

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How long has God been the Trinity? Did the Trinity only start after Jesus was crucified? Norrrm Apr 18 #1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." TomSlick Apr 18 #2
Good words but does not answer the question. Norrrm Apr 18 #3
The meaning seems clear in context. TomSlick Apr 18 #5
The direct answer if from eternity standingtall Apr 19 #6
So there were two Jesus entities existing at the same time for approx 33 years. Norrrm Apr 19 #9
No there is 1 Jesus, but that 1 Jesus has 2 nature standingtall Apr 19 #10
Then there were two Jesus entities (natures) existing at the same time for approx 33 years. Norrrm Apr 19 #11
The 2nd nature Jesus took on didn't disappear standingtall Apr 19 #12
That's ok . There were two Jesus entities (natures) existing at the same time for approx 33 years. Norrrm Apr 19 #13
The Trinity still existed from eternity though standingtall Apr 19 #14
The Trinity was not in question. You have adequately shown that for 33 years, there were two Jesus entities. Norrrm Apr 19 #15
That's not at all what is being said. TomSlick Monday #18
Refer back to 2 natures Norrrm Monday #19
I don't understand how having two natures means that there are two distinct persons. TomSlick Monday #20
Good sidetrack, pretending that Jesus having two natures is not true. Norrrm Monday #21
Vade in pace. TomSlick Monday #22
The Trinity's development The Great Open Dance Apr 19 #16
OK. It does not address that there were (still are?) two Jesus entities existing at the same time. Norrrm Apr 19 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author TomSlick Apr 18 #4
Jesus absolutely did die for our sins though standingtall Apr 19 #7
Jesus wasn't accussing of abandonment on the cross either standingtall Apr 19 #8
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