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14. Here's kinda how i understand it...
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 11:55 PM
Nov 2021

Supposedly all are 'sinners' because 'sin' is all things that separate one from God. (not just your basic obvious bad deeds). As humans we spend much of our time in modes of thought or behavior that are separating us. (In fact most spiritual pursuits are seeking ways to close that separation.)
SO then JC comes along and is both fully human and at the same time god incarnate. So god gets to see what it is like to walk around and live as one of us. hold that thought for the next part...
So the old testament understanding of god was that 'he' wants you to pay for not following the rules - a sacrifice is demanded. Somehow sacrificing animals was supposed to fill that atonement need. This was the understanding at the time.
So someone/thing has to pay for our sins in that mindset.
Now JC tries to teach it is not about laws etc to be right with god, but what really strikes the point is that he (as man and god - cuz he is one with god, remember) is going to do the needed sacrifice, but the big deal of it is - (remember the 'why has thou forsaken me' part?) he is separated from god at that point - he feels what it is like to be just man separated from god -thus feeling and taking on sin (remember my earlier definition of sin).
SO basically - the thing i get from it is that god loves humans enough to experience the pain of being human, and therefore, we should take confidence that god/the universal force, whatever you want to call it can understand our pain and struggles firsthand - we belong to the universe.

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This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #1
It wasn't even 72 hrs. IIRC, it was supposed to be 3 in the afternoon (on Friday) when he died RockRaven Nov 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #9
Would Xians be less shitty to other people because they'd be worried about actually being RockRaven Nov 2021 #2
Never understood it either. Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #7
It never made any sense to you because it never will. dchill Nov 2021 #4
Christ's teachings, which the christians routinely ignore, would be the same whether he rose or not. Thomas Hurt Nov 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #8
Jesus gave up his weekend for your sins SledDriver Nov 2021 #10
... unblock Nov 2021 #11
You must believe. twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #12
Hmm.. I thought that an Easter time question Deuxcents Nov 2021 #13
Here's kinda how i understand it... consider_this Nov 2021 #14
That's one of the better explanations I've seen, but it's still confusing and weird. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #17
Agreed, but consider_this Nov 2021 #18
Good job Lulu KC Nov 2021 #20
Killing one's son seems a most peculiar... 3catwoman3 Nov 2021 #15
Look what He did on behalf of your sorry ass...... 3Hotdogs Nov 2021 #16
? twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #21
The focus on the voluntary, sacrificial death of Jesus is to instill a sense of moral obligation 3Hotdogs Nov 2021 #22
I see. twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #23
Had Jesus not died and left, he could have taught for another 30-35 years sanatanadharma Nov 2021 #19
If you think that is confusing edhopper Nov 2021 #24
No Cabury creme eggs. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2021 #25
I wonder... old as dirt Dec 2021 #26
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