Gun Control & RKBA

PTWB

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83. That's incorrect.

Wed Jul 20, 2022, 10:28 AM

Jul 2022

I posted what we do know based on what has been reported and then, separately, posted questions that we don't know the answer to. Just because you don't like what has been reported doesn't change the fact that it's been reported.

A man is dead because he made the choice to commit an armed robbery of an innocent victim. The dead man chose to value the victim's ATM withdrawal over the victim's life and his own life. The victim did not make that choice.

The victim was prepared and defended his life, quite successfully. No amount of victim blaming will change the facts here.

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Would-be robber shot and killed by intended victim in west Houston, police say [View all] PTWB Jul 2022 OP

So a guy withdraws $100 and another guy says give it to me AndyS Jul 2022 #1

Exactly!! WWJD?? Most of these people are also religious. Killing someone for $100? That's insane Pisces Jul 2022 #2

Most of the gangers out there would kill you for less. n/t oneshooter Jul 2022 #3

Maybe, but I would hand that money over quick, not reach for a gun. I also give money to panhandlers Pisces Jul 2022 #6

So you hand it over quick. oneshooter Jul 2022 #63

So that's the standard you hold yourself to? Figures. Life's cheap for gunners. nt AndyS Jul 2022 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author oneshooter Jul 2022 #4

So, I work 6 hours of minimum wage to earn $100 Hangingon Jul 2022 #5

Okay, you're on record for a human life being worth maybe $100. Duly noted. nt AndyS Jul 2022 #8

Proud to be on record for it. Hangingon Jul 2022 #11

Proud of yersef, are ya'? Not sure what ya' mean about me determining society . . . nt AndyS Jul 2022 #13

Well "determination" should be deterioration. Hangingon Jul 2022 #16

What's the record worth when a criminal grabs your kids ? DashOneBravo Jul 2022 #79

Asinine question and flamebait. Not biting. AndyS Jul 2022 #81

Hang on sir DashOneBravo Aug 2022 #90

Setting the record straight re sniper school. AndyS Aug 2022 #91

Thanks for explaining that. DashOneBravo Aug 2022 #92

'69-'71 AndyS Aug 2022 #93

It's a life. Sorry but 6 hours of work is not worth someone's life. I hope that person was going to Pisces Jul 2022 #9

The $100 would have fed the shooter's children. Hangingon Jul 2022 #12

Clearly life has no value, at least not to gunners. nt AndyS Jul 2022 #14

Your concentration on the gun issue has caused you to lose sight of reality. Hangingon Jul 2022 #17

That's how you see it? And you think I'm blinded by guns??? AndyS Jul 2022 #21

Nice attempt to regain lost high ground Hangingon Jul 2022 #23

Nice circular argument. Also nice deflection. AndyS Jul 2022 #25

Well, I think it is time to heed my father's advice from long ago. Hangingon Jul 2022 #27

Apples and oranges. We are discussing a life. In America life has no value unless you're a fetus. Pisces Jul 2022 #15

That is sad. Hangingon Jul 2022 #18

How so? yagotme Jul 2022 #87

You seem to have missed the part about ManiacJoe Jul 2022 #76

No, I didn't miss that. It just doesn't seem to fit most scenarios. AndyS Jul 2022 #78

Good riddance The Mouth Aug 2022 #89

Appears that shoot outs are going to be common now in the US. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #10

Assuming that someone who points a gun at you doesn't intend to shoot you... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #19

Amen Hangingon Jul 2022 #20

Where the fuck did you get that factoid? AndyS Jul 2022 #22

Well I read that too. Hangingon Jul 2022 #26

Answer this for me: AndyS Jul 2022 #28

We only know what is in the 3 paragraphs. That is what we deal with. Hangingon Jul 2022 #29

Again, fantasizing scenarios that justify killing a human over a few bucks. I'm gonna' AndyS Jul 2022 #30

In my final response to your repeated attempts to make a crook a hero.. Hangingon Jul 2022 #32

I have not made anyone a hero. I have put human life above cash. You are on record for being AndyS Jul 2022 #33

You really can't see beyond the simplest thing when guns are involved Hangingon Jul 2022 #35

"that needed to happen was to give the guy the money and nobody would die. " oneshooter Jul 2022 #66

This is at least worth a reply, barely. AndyS Jul 2022 #77

It's incredible... PTWB Jul 2022 #31

I have not said any of that. AndyS Jul 2022 #36

"What I DID do is say that human life is worth more than a few dollars." oneshooter Jul 2022 #67

Flame bait and I'm not biteing. AndyS Jul 2022 #74

"I'm shocked at the amount of victim blaming going on." AndyS Jul 2022 #24

The armed robber fired his gun at the victim. PTWB Jul 2022 #34

The article doesn't back up what you said. AndyS Jul 2022 #37

You'll have to try again. PTWB Jul 2022 #38

For the LAST time I'm not blaming the victim. AndyS Jul 2022 #39

How is this not blaming the victim? PTWB Jul 2022 #40

You can keep saying that but nobody is buying what you're selling. AndyS Jul 2022 #41

Looks like several folks in the thread don't appreciate the victim blaming. PTWB Jul 2022 #42

Once again, No it is not indisputable. In fact all the data refute that. nt AndyS Jul 2022 #43

LOL PTWB Jul 2022 #44

It is not indisputable that resisting is a better course of action than not resisting. AndyS Jul 2022 #45

Try again. PTWB Jul 2022 #46

No, I'm not playing that semantic game. I'm not letting you define some narrow AndyS Jul 2022 #47

The only one playing the semantics game is you. PTWB Jul 2022 #48

Welll . . . AndyS Jul 2022 #49

That isn't what the statistics say. PTWB Jul 2022 #50

That is what the statistics say. AndyS Jul 2022 #51

That isn't how statistics work my friend. PTWB Jul 2022 #52

Just tellin' ya' what the science says. AndyS Jul 2022 #53

That still isn't how statistics work. PTWB Jul 2022 #54

I don't believe in Superman. AndyS Jul 2022 #55

So... PTWB Jul 2022 #56

Wasn't answering that question but under most circumstances you have arguably a AndyS Jul 2022 #57

No reason. PTWB Jul 2022 #58

Yeah, you're the only exception. Right. AndyS Jul 2022 #59

Lol PTWB Jul 2022 #60

Here: AndyS Jul 2022 #61

Hmmm.. PTWB Jul 2022 #62

Okay, I'll modify my wording. Your are AN exception (in your own mind). AndyS Jul 2022 #64

Exception was your word. PTWB Jul 2022 #68

Oh Jesus fucking Christ this is so fucking tedious. AndyS Jul 2022 #72

I've addressed the statistics being twisted in a separate post and will include the link PTWB Jul 2022 #82

It's NOT about some ficticious self defense scenario. AndyS Jul 2022 #84

Despite your repititions... PTWB Jul 2022 #85

I've got an appointment soon so I'll bid you good evening. AndyS Jul 2022 #65

The robber was not killed over an ATM withdrawal. PTWB Jul 2022 #69

You got all this from 3 paragraphs? AndyS Jul 2022 #73

That's incorrect. PTWB Jul 2022 #83

Don't be shocked. DashOneBravo Jul 2022 #70

There is a strong contingent who hate self defense DashOneBravo Jul 2022 #71

See as an older woman I would be afraid that he would take my bank card, my car and then flying_wahini Jul 2022 #75

What I see through many replies in this thread: discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #80

Good riddance. The Mouth Jul 2022 #86

As soon as the word "gun" melm00se Jul 2022 #88

Post removed Post removed Aug 2022 #94

Good riddance. Happy ending. The Mouth Aug 2022 #95