Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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43. you're confused

Thu Jan 17, 2019, 08:40 PM

Jan 2019

You quote my response:

"yagotme: Note: It is a doctrine in statutory construction that statutes that are in pari materia must be construed together.
The purpose of the Bill of Rights is, was and will always be securing individual rights. The 2A does not secure a state's right to have a militia."

...and attributed it to yagotme. Well, that's just an "oops".

But your response:

"Tap dancing along with johnston I see. I see now why you named yourself 'yagotme'.
The bor also limited congressional authority."

You just don't seem to get it. The BoR isn't just another law. It is, along with parts of the Constitution, founding assumptions and principles upon which the government is based.

From the Bill of Rights:

"THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution."

That's declarative and restrictive not just restrictive. The people had confidence in their own state elected legislators and officials but viewed national governments with suspicion. So yes initially the restrictions within the BoR were explicitly on the federal government but many are now rightly incorporated as state restrictions as well.

We do not accept restrictions on free speech as okay if a state makes that law.

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United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939) [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 OP

What weapons are appropriate to a State militia? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #1

Well regulated means well equiped. gejohnston Dec 2018 #3

well-regulated militia member murders his wife sharedvalues Dec 2018 #4

appeal to emotion, gejohnston Dec 2018 #7

Nope, appeal to facts. Woman murdered. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #8

about facts, gejohnston Dec 2018 #11

Nearly everything you said is false. Please read here. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #15

Vox gejohnston Dec 2018 #16

Vox is truth seeking media sharedvalues Dec 2018 #19

the average Vox writer gejohnston Dec 2018 #21

This is a rightwing talking point. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #22

no, it is objective fact gejohnston Dec 2018 #23

An example of an article with internal inconsistencies discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #29

So if you pay taxes in Ferguson, Missouri... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #12

No, but if you buy ammo, you're complicit in Sandy Hook sharedvalues Dec 2018 #14

That just smells like more "flexible logic" n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #26

See the list of small arms here discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #5

And Scalia's later Heller decision was motivated by politics. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #2

re: "Originalism is a bullshit excuse..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #6

Originalism is Republican bullsh*t. As i said. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #9

Thanks, I will read it but, respectfully... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #10

Respectfully, Scalia, Heller, and "originalism" get Americans killed sharedvalues Dec 2018 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author gejohnston Dec 2018 #17

Please continue to defend Republican judges nm sharedvalues Dec 2018 #18

I defend the BoR, gejohnston Dec 2018 #20

"Well-regulated militia" sharedvalues Dec 2018 #25

which meant you show up with your own gun and gear gejohnston Dec 2018 #27

bulloffal on equipped jimmy the one Jan 2019 #38

To "regulate" the equipment of the militia would apply to #1, yagotme Jan 2019 #39

I am right, you are wrong. gejohnston Jan 2019 #40

no rebuttals, just ad homs & cheap shots & tap dancing jimmy the one Jan 2019 #41

only a postload of ad hominem & cheap shots gejohnston Jan 2019 #42

you're confused discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #43

Legal Definition of in pari materia discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #28

re: germane discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #24

miller vs unorganized militia jimmy the one Jan 2019 #30

re: "This 1939 supreme court ruling on miller was UNANIMOUS." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #31

unorganized militia is a JOKE jimmy the one Jan 2019 #34

Thank you: "It is an opinion..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #35

The current existing law from Title 10 of the US Code discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #36

Last but not least re: "...JOKE" discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2019 #44

Two comments. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #32

You are dead wrong on just about everything jimmy the one Jan 2019 #33

Problems with some of your comments: yagotme Jan 2019 #37