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In reply to the discussion: Children Are Dying Because Of Americans' Denial About Guns [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)83. Pol Pot?
        Not only are you wrong on the facts, your stubbornness makes you complicit in kids deaths. 
  Get bent.  You know who is really complicated in these children's death?  The fucking media smearing the losers' names all over the place creating the media contagion effect.  That is the real reason these murders have doubled since the 1970s.
You know who else is complicit in these deaths? The Broward County Sherriff. That corrupt, incompetent. and authoritarian piece of shit had the balls to want to trash the BoR and have politicians give him arbitrary police power. Come to find out that Cruz committed violent crimes, which was ignored, because of a standing policy in the county to ignore crimes committed by high school students. 39 visits to the house, including threats, DV on his mother. His department is rife with incompetence that when someone called them to report Cruz's threats to kill people, his department told the caller to call a different county. That is before the cowardliness of four of his deputies. I don't give a rat's ass what party is, Scott Isreal has to go and the BSD be cleaned out. The school board and county commission who created the policy should be removed, shamed, and prosecuted. Again, I don't give a fuck what party they belong to. Once that is done, then maybe we will discuss gun policy. If they are Democrats, primary them or recall them and replace. If they are Republicans, recall them and replace them with Democrats who do give a shit.
Do you accuse me of not caring about the kids? If Cruz used something other than a firearm he obtained legally, do you seriously think Bloomberg would be paying for field trips to the state capital? No. He cares about his own authoritarian and racist bullshit.
One more thing. When you count only mass shootings (be it terrorism or spree) in Europe, US, and Canada we are 12th per capita. That is before we get to mass murder by other means and countries that have stricter gun laws and much higher murder rates, like Brazil and South Africa. Your arguments lack substance. If anti-gunners come up with better arguments based on facts and reason, not logical fallacies, fake statistics, demonization, and outright lies, then maybe the public at large will agree with stricter gun laws.
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        What about my M1884 rifle? That is a single shot military long arm designed to kill humans as well.
        Marengo
        Feb 2018
        #29
      
        
        Australia and Canada put the lie to NRA stats.  Fewer guns, fewer deaths.  See the chart.
        sharedvalues
        Feb 2018
        #42
      
        
        re:"Let's be clear: if you support more guns in the US, you're complicit in American kids' deaths."
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Feb 2018
        #45
      
        
        Bullshit: The FBI's crime statistics are available online to all: https://ucr.fbi.gov/
        friendly_iconoclast
        Feb 2018
        #67
      
        
        As friendly_iconoclast has pointed out the data is readily available on the internet...
        spin
        Feb 2018
        #69
      
        
        Please read.  How many times do I have to show you all the quote?  Please read.
        sharedvalues
        Feb 2018
        #71
      
        
        You're backpedaling-your claim changed when the FBI's freely available stats were pointed out.
        friendly_iconoclast
        Feb 2018
        #73
      
        
        IOW, guns embolden deaths. Thank you for Loudly giving your opinion
        friendly_iconoclast
        Feb 2018
        #49
      
        
        "...equating Pol Pot with the kids that died at Sandy Hook?" No, pointing out blatant demagoguery
        friendly_iconoclast
        Feb 2018
        #84
      
        
        I agree.  We need to ban handguns, and gun-fetishists have been Gish galloping.
        sharedvalues
        Feb 2018
        #77
      
        
        I don't doubt that you believe every word you write when you write it n/t
        friendly_iconoclast
        Feb 2018
        #82
      
        
        "Getting an AR-15-style rifle is much harder in Canada than the U.S." - Largest TV network in Canada
        sharedvalues
        Feb 2018
        #76
      
        
        It seems spreading bullshit for too long causes one to start to believe what they're handing out...
        friendly_iconoclast
        Feb 2018
        #81
      
        
        It's cute that your standard seems to be: "Someone else said so too, so that *proves* I'm right!"
        friendly_iconoclast
        Feb 2018
        #80
      
        
        Not your version of gun control....I MOST certainly do know about American
        AncientGeezer
        Feb 2018
        #20
      
        
        The children of Latarsha Sanders were torn apart with a kitchen knife wielded by her. The oldest...
        Marengo
        Feb 2018
        #30
      
        
        Latarsha Sanders didnt kill her children with a gun. So, lets hear some of you ideas on how...
        Marengo
        Feb 2018
        #57
      
        
        Stopping parents from murdering their kids because of religious delusions and...
        moriah
        Feb 2018
        #60
      
        
        Latarsha Sanders shouldnt have had access to a lethal weapons. Background checks for the...
        Marengo
        Feb 2018
        #64
      
  