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Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Ban the Open Carry of Firearms [View all]SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)16. Civil Liberties Body ACLU Will No Longer Defend Gun-Carrying Protest Groups
        Since its founding during a period of anti-communist paranoia in 1920, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has served as a reliable line of defense for those who find their constitutional freedoms under threat.
Sometimes, that means fighting for liberal causes: ACLU lawyers were involved in Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, the two supreme court victories that underpinned womens right to abortions in modern America. ANd the ACLU was the only major U.S. organization to speak out against the internment of 110,000 Japanese Americans following the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.
But sometimes, the group has decided to defend people that its liberal supporters find less palatable. In a 1934 pamphlet, entitled Shall We Defend Free Speech for Nazis in America? the group defended its choice to stand up for German-American Nazis who wanted to hold meetings in the U.S. Is it not clear that free speech as a practical tactic, not only as an abstract principle, demands the defense of all who are attacked in order to obtain the rights of any ? its justification read.
In modern America, the ACLU finds itself in a similar bind. With far-right groups like neo-Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan more visible, and white nationalists grouping under its self-defined banner of the "alt-right," it must decide whether it will defend the rights of such groups to demonstrate and spread their often hateful views.
http://www.newsweek.com/free-speech-hate-speech-aclu-civil-liberties-donald-trump-652050
Sometimes, that means fighting for liberal causes: ACLU lawyers were involved in Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, the two supreme court victories that underpinned womens right to abortions in modern America. ANd the ACLU was the only major U.S. organization to speak out against the internment of 110,000 Japanese Americans following the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.
But sometimes, the group has decided to defend people that its liberal supporters find less palatable. In a 1934 pamphlet, entitled Shall We Defend Free Speech for Nazis in America? the group defended its choice to stand up for German-American Nazis who wanted to hold meetings in the U.S. Is it not clear that free speech as a practical tactic, not only as an abstract principle, demands the defense of all who are attacked in order to obtain the rights of any ? its justification read.
In modern America, the ACLU finds itself in a similar bind. With far-right groups like neo-Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan more visible, and white nationalists grouping under its self-defined banner of the "alt-right," it must decide whether it will defend the rights of such groups to demonstrate and spread their often hateful views.
http://www.newsweek.com/free-speech-hate-speech-aclu-civil-liberties-donald-trump-652050
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        But what about Antonin Scalia and his "discovery" of what he called "original intent"?
        guillaumeb
        Aug 2017
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        Decoy of Fenris
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        Civil Liberties Body ACLU Will No Longer Defend Gun-Carrying Protest Groups
        SecularMotion
        Aug 2017
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        Do you support denying a Constitutional right based on being on a government list? The ACLU doesn't:
        friendly_iconoclast
        Aug 2017
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        Their argument against using the no-fly watchlist is that the system is broken.
        SecularMotion
        Aug 2017
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        What about states already using those lists to deny gun permits? New Jersey does:
        friendly_iconoclast
        Aug 2017
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