Gun Control & RKBA

ExciteBike66

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40. I am unfamiliar with the Ultima GT-R,

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #39)

Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:01 PM

Jul 2017

does it not come with seat belts?

Having cars require seatbelts doesn't bother me, because the social benefits are much greater than the costs. It is the same with automation (assuming the testing is rigorous and the cars are deemed safe to drive themselves, something that as of right now is ongoing).

If the car shuts off when the seatbelt is released, I think there would need to be some leeway for accidentally removing your belt or having a pissed-off passenger remove it for you (perhaps a one minute timer before the car shuts down, so you can pull over?).

I totally agree with you about the law and technology. Generally the law (legislative branch) is far behind technology, and the court system ends up having to fill in gaps until the legislators feel the need to step in. I foresee that automated driving tech will continue to improve to a point where, in the near future, we will be able to trust driverless cars enough to allow their sale to the public. Once we have a bunch of years of mixed driving (normal and driverless), then we can see where we are in terms of mandating automation or not.

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Smart guns - survey... sort of [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 OP

It's an interesting analogy, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #1

I thought governors had drivers? Throck Jul 2017 #5

What do you think money grows on trees? ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #6

As I understand the technology... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #7

I agree wrt guns, they are different than cars, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #9

re: "...perhaps a malfunctioning driverless car could just have a set speed limit that is low..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #11

I think we are getting out of hand here. ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #17

I agree about the thread taking a tangent discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #20

I do accept automated control over cars, sure. ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #22

re: "...no need to allow the driver to exceed the speed limit." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #24

I agree in part ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #25

Side benefits (to autonomous cars) would be... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #26

I understand the reasoning but bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #2

I don't know, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #3

I prefer to be driving away from the mayhem bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #10

But you are less safe in front of the drunk driver... ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #18

what part of driving AWAY from a dangerous bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #27

And what part of ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #28

I'll repeat myself bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #29

I understand you want him behind you, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #33

Pardon my intrusion here discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #30

Ok, but ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #34

I imagine most people... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #36

The discussion is not about sacrificing freedom, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #37

Speed limits are an evolving aspect of the motor vehicle code discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #39

I am unfamiliar with the Ultima GT-R, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #40

Yes it has seat belts along with a 240 MPH max speed discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #41

A separate post for the gun thing ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #35

See my embedded replies below discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #38

I agree discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #8

I think there are too many variables presented while driving. justhanginon Jul 2017 #4

Just a question discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #12

That is a damn good question. I was mulling over some possible justhanginon Jul 2017 #13

Einstein was pretty big on thought experiments discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #14

It seems to me that when you got to full on autonomy you really lose justhanginon Jul 2017 #15

re: "I've been retired for almost twenty years..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #16

The human "ability" is over-rated... ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #19

Speed loses much of its value when their is no human moral justhanginon Jul 2017 #21

I don't see it that way at all... ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #23

I like to move with the speed of the traffic. ... spin Jul 2017 #31

Sounds like a safe plan discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #32