Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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15. Europe has much more democracy

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:54 PM

Jun 2016

Ireland is in the EU, which means you actually live in a facade of a democracy. But then, I dispute that they are actually more democratic or free.

No, protecting individual rights is the most basic thing a government must do. As for Europe having more individual freedom, that is absurd. In Germany, question the wisdom of having huge numbers of migrants in your borders and the cops will be knocking on your door. Ireland got rid of their blasphemy laws only a few years ago.

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I mostly agree discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #12

Basically EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #2

In the process sarisataka Jun 2016 #3

So EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #4

I never mentioned the 18th sarisataka Jun 2016 #6

Agreed EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #7

IMO a program sarisataka Jun 2016 #8

We know that's not the case EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #9

So rather than sarisataka Jun 2016 #10

let's be clear EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #11

You say you want to do both sarisataka Jun 2016 #22

Yes and no EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #23

You are not open to everything sarisataka Jun 2016 #29

Nonsense EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #30

Why do you try and sarisataka Jun 2016 #31

Wait wait EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #32

I do not advocate sarisataka Jun 2016 #34

Lol EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #35

Glad to bring sarisataka Jun 2016 #37

Europe has much more democracy gejohnston Jun 2016 #15

No EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #17

nonsense gejohnston Jun 2016 #18

The state's role EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #19

some of the high schools gejohnston Jun 2016 #20

The states role is not to infringe. beevul Jun 2016 #40

Like I keep saying EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #43

And you keep being wrong. beevul Jun 2016 #51

define "highly trained" gejohnston Jun 2016 #5

In reply discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #13

ok EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #14

Let's get this straight discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #16

No EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #25

Laws regarding rights have changed discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #38

Rights EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #39

You do not understand the fundamentals of American society. beevul Jun 2016 #44

No EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #45

No. Its YOU who are confused. beevul Jun 2016 #46

let me ask you this EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #47

Let me answer you this... beevul Jun 2016 #48

gun nuts ARE the problem EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #49

In your warped view. beevul Jun 2016 #50

On your statement about Jefferson: I think you've been somewhat misled about him. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2016 #36

Let me ask you a question... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #21

I have no real thoughts EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #24

Federally recognized tribes... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #26

again EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #27

And there lies the problem... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #55

"government interference" = CONTROL discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #58

Knowing what has been done then, would you advocate complete confiscation... Marengo Jun 2016 #28

What about when society decides that the best plan safety plan is to keep the 2A as is? ileus Jun 2016 #41

Sure EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #42

Bravo. beardown Jun 2016 #33

51 replies...I can see all of one. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #52

Camp Weathervane... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #53

Hillary backers. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #54

Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #57

^^ I've made the same observation. Interesting. NT pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #56