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In reply to the discussion: Gun control is losing control [View all]Human101948
(3,457 posts)7. You're stepping into right wing territory...
In a scathing critique of ABC's recent report "Young Guns," Dana Loesch stated that most gun deaths were the result of gang violence; therefore, America has a gang problem, not a gun problem. Her claim appears to be supported by sites positing that "a staggering 80 percent of gun homicides are gang-related." As it turns out though, not only is her statement factually incorrect, as the majority of gun deaths are suicides, but there is not a shred of evidence to support her characterization that gangs are the driving force behind firearm violence.
Unfortunately, Dana Loesch's sentiment is shared by many gun advocates, including the Executive Vice President of the National Rifle Association, Wayne LaPierre, who, when opposing firearm background checks said, "President Obama should be as committed to dealing with the gang problem that is tormenting honest people in his hometown as he is to blaming law-abiding gun owners for the acts of psychopathic murderers."
So, do we have a gang problem or a gun problem? Data collected by the National Gang Center, the government agency responsible for cataloging gang violence, makes clear that it's the latter. There were 1,824 gang-related killings in 2011. This total includes deaths by means other than a gun. The Bureau of Justice Statistics finds this number to be even lower, identifying a little more than 1,000 gang-related homicides in 2008. In comparison, there were 11,101 homicides and 19,766 suicides committed with firearms in 2011.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/evan-defilippis/do-we-have-a-gang-problem_b_5071639.html
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Experts? No. As far as pro-control or control accepting folks like myself are concerned...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2016
#11
re: " Even shoes and fists kill more people than rifles do, per the FBI."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Mar 2016
#22
Your sort helps piss away our moral authority through the use of bafflegab and mendacity...
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2016
#28
Please don't fall for their bullshit that they use to woo the evangelicals...
Human101948
Mar 2016
#29
So, no, you do *not* have any evidence that pablo_marmol is a Republican.
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2016
#31
I took a bit to give myself a chance to consider the various possible angles...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Mar 2016
#24
If your interest is to pass gun-control laws via our party, then believe this...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Mar 2016
#36
And the lack of homicides by police in Great Britain has nothing to do with their lack of guns
Human101948
Mar 2016
#39
So you're saying that we a violent homicidal culture in these United States?
Human101948
Mar 2016
#41
if gun owners would stop killing 30,000+ people every year this issue would waste away nt
msongs
Feb 2016
#2
Okey dokey, but the distraction of "black on black" crime and gangs is a right wing meme
Human101948
Feb 2016
#9
Oh, come on. If they killed 200 a year, you'd still be trying to ban them. (n/t)
benEzra
Feb 2016
#13
We are not supposed to think of these things. We are supposed to react emotionally to the numbers.
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2016
#15