Gun Control & RKBA

Surf Fishing Guru

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28. ReallY????

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 09:25 PM

Feb 2016

The right to privacy (and the rights that derive from it, abortion / contraception / sexual orientation rights etc) are recognized and protected because of the origin and nature of the enumerated rights (including the RKBA) and yes, the 9th Amendment.

You need to read Griswold and Roe and PP v Casey and decide if your hostility for the right to arms, (recognized as a link in the "rational continuum of liberty" the Bill of Rights protects), is worth calling into question the legal theory for recognizing the right to privacy.

My fear is that anti-gunner hostility for the the 2nd Amendment and gun rights will be employed by right-wingers to argue that recognizing and securing the rights to abortion and other reproductive choices or even the gains made in LGBT rights is legally illegitimate -- because the premise of an unbroken "continuum" of liberty is obviously NOT true and thus the supposed foundational reasoning for Griswold, Roe, P.P. v Casey, etc., is unmitigated BS.

You are wrong and dangerously so . . .

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Antonin Scalia's death calls Supreme Court gun rights stance into question [View all] SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP

I think one of those... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #1

Some would have to complete their sentences first. N/T beevul Feb 2016 #21

There will always be those who are... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #22

Thus no nominee who is not an "individual right" advocate will have a chance at approval. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #2

That will be the Republican position, no doubt. stone space Feb 2016 #3

Why would the GOP come here? GGJohn Feb 2016 #4

Oh, come on! We've even had Zimmerman supporters come here. stone space Feb 2016 #5

Zimmerman supporters? GGJohn Feb 2016 #6

Are personal insults really necessary here? stone space Feb 2016 #9

A fact is not a personal insult. GGJohn Feb 2016 #10

More personal insults??? Seriously??? Why??? stone space Feb 2016 #11

Why do you always make yourself out to be the victim? eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #12

Why did you introduce personal insults into this thread? stone space Feb 2016 #14

See, there you go again, GGJohn Feb 2016 #15

Now you are just trolling. stone space Feb 2016 #16

... GGJohn Feb 2016 #17

No personal insults... Puha Ekapi Feb 2016 #18

same here, I see facts Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #20

It's a shtick, seen early & often. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #31

I am sure you will be able to supply links Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #8

so are you calling du members Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #7

That was precisely my point. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #13

Was his dissent in Maryland v King "bullshit" as well? Marengo Feb 2016 #19

That will be the position of any individual who values their rights. beevul Feb 2016 #24

Not sure how his death calls anything TeddyR Feb 2016 #23

Really? Where, exactly, does the Second Amendment mention or even allude to a flamin lib Feb 2016 #25

where does it say there isn't? gejohnston Feb 2016 #26

Are you against self defense? beevul Feb 2016 #27

ReallY???? Surf Fishing Guru Feb 2016 #28

I will ask again, flamin lib Feb 2016 #30

You are starting from an invalid foundation Surf Fishing Guru Feb 2016 #32

That is precisely what I said. Scalia found something in the Second Amendment that isn't there. flamin lib Feb 2016 #33

militia, clear & unequivocal in 1939 miller jimmy the one Feb 2016 #35

Hey jimmmy! I don't think there is doubt about the 2nd securing an individual right... jmg257 Feb 2016 #36

little problem with militia centric pov jimmy the one Feb 2016 #37

Ha - that is why I included points 2-4 - NO doubt what he was saying! nt jmg257 Feb 2016 #38

Do you deny a right to self-defense? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #34

Can't tell the difference between babies and bathwater, huh? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #29