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mgmaggiemg

(869 posts)
9. well remember please that you asked....
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:44 AM
Feb 2016

First we both have to agree that gun nuts fetishize guns, violence and second amendment rights....also as per the MO of congress they pass laws they are completely incapable of funding...re fbi is now sitting on million of unchecked background checks...but because of loopholes just submitting info to the fbi means the gun shop owner or dealer (that's the law abiding one) gets to sell guns as a "straw purchaser" as many a he wants...(as evidenced by the millions of unprocessed background checks)....and the dealer gets to say that he sold only guns with background checks.....because of a technicality in actuality all across america all types of weapons by the millions are sold with virtually no bacground check; this is how the ame tragedy happened....in counties all across america...even tho laws are being passed in every state about background checks ...sheriff's and law enforcement are refusing to do them ..they are openly defiant...because they say they don't have the funding...I believe them...but that doesn't stop the gun dealer from selling guns with unprocessed background check...literally for months the media and the government said dylann roof had passed his background check...and that was all shot to hell when one of the family members went and testified in oregon state legislative session...in salem about how Roof had never passed a background check....certainly even tho the FBI knew this they were not saying anything about it....the whole circus of the government clean up crews showing up to a massacre and cleaning up the mess...in such a cold and efficient manner....tax payers pay billions of dollars to the government every year to clean up the bloody messes of 10's of thousands of murders....33 thousand last year I think....and yet bernie has voted 5 times to block the ability of victims families to sue...gun manufacturers....there are a couple of informative articles that have been on cnn this past week you can check them out....I don't vouch explicitly for any stats because gun violence even tho it's out in the open is so swept under the rug by the lawmakers, (politicians) bureaucracy (fbi) and nra (lobbyists..) ok so you know how the bureaucracies in various states are putting "moratoriums" the death penalty for various reasons....let that be the starting point for gun control....the state admits the job they are doing is an epic failure...a moratorium is applied and then various plans are suggested...but instead of going through congress there has to be a national vote.....that the NRA can't by pass voters and politicians can't by pass voters...because the government has failed so catastrophically to uphold the clusterfk of laws that are on the books state to state.....ok...told you that was going to be long....what do you suggest?

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I agree with this section: Kang Colby Feb 2016 #1
Ownership of military-style rifles and machine guns should be restricted SecularMotion Feb 2016 #3
What past restrictions are you talking about? nt hack89 Feb 2016 #4
Machine guns already are highly restricted. GGJohn Feb 2016 #5
Please define "military-style" n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #6
I guess they are coming for my '03 Springfield too, an actual military weapon DonP Feb 2016 #10
Ooooooh! rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #52
Yes, and it's called an '03 because 1903 when it was developed DonP Feb 2016 #54
You seem to think rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #55
... GGJohn Feb 2016 #56
Did you read our SOP? beevul Feb 2016 #57
Bullshit. They are rarely used because they are *rifles*. benEzra Feb 2016 #39
"It is not necessary to "ban" any weapons" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #48
I've seen 'making up reality' before, but that really takes the cake. beevul Feb 2016 #50
re: "How about "No"." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #53
Agreed. The control outlook is in the hands of culture war extremists... Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #15
NRA has had carte blanche mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #2
re: "sane laws that actually work" discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #7
well remember please that you asked.... mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #9
It would be helpful if you first knew what you were talking about. beevul Feb 2016 #12
fbi sitting on 3millions mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #13
The number of gun related deaths is 33k. The majority of which are suicides not murders Press Virginia Feb 2016 #19
Hilarity.... beevul Feb 2016 #23
"Swept under the rug"? Ummm, no. The FBI publishes them annually. benEzra Feb 2016 #40
Actually, there were only 11,961 reported murders *using any weapon*. benEzra Feb 2016 #41
thanks and here's my take discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #20
my eyes, what word salad Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #21
"First we both have to agree that gun nuts fetishize guns, violence and second amendment rights" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #22
re: "well remember please that you asked...." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #36
Can you provide a link to the "million of unchecked background checks" claim? Marengo Feb 2016 #37
Perhaps you missed my reply discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #42
I think you may be tapping the fingers down to a nub... Marengo Feb 2016 #43
didn't know if I should reply mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #45
Well, thanks for answering discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #46
When you're able... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #49
moving on discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #44
Fetishize is exactly right rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #51
Your interlocutor is having a time-out. Something about gun control seems to induce logorrhea... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #58
Who will be coming for your guns, gun owner? Marengo Feb 2016 #59
Hopefully the people can get their message thru the anti-BS. ileus Feb 2016 #8
The "people" send their message loud and clear with each NICS check DonP Feb 2016 #11
Also ammo plants DashOneBravo Feb 2016 #38
"Sea change?" Change of metaphors since "tipping point" seems rusted over. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #14
Sandy Hook was a tipping point that CAUSED the sea change. nt flamin lib Feb 2016 #16
Don't see it. Gun rights advocates are more mobilized than ever... Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #17
What that 'sea change' in blue Massachusetts looks like: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #18
They couldn't get an AWB passed in neighboring Rhode Island post Sandy Hook hack89 Feb 2016 #24
Did I hear someone say "tipping point"? pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #25
It has changed. deathrind Feb 2016 #26
This is why we'll never get anywhere. beevul Feb 2016 #27
It's a sad sight to witness otherwise intelligent people in the throes of false consensus effect friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #29
You make a lot of... deathrind Feb 2016 #30
Nope. Going by the evidence provided is not an assumption. beevul Feb 2016 #35
Someone forgot to inform the citizens of Illinois, Minnesota, and Massachusetts... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #28
It will come about in the same... deathrind Feb 2016 #31
Your analogy is inapt. branford Feb 2016 #32
Your, deathrind Feb 2016 #33
And your lack of a cogent/honest response is noted as well. pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #47
You conflate criminal misuse and lawful use friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #34
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