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In reply to the discussion: NRA lies smartly exposed: The truth about consumer demand for life-saving smart guns [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)53. I don't see any lies. I see strawmen. Now deconstructed.
         one of the gun lobbys worst lies among too many to count: That theres just no market for smarter guns that would save lives.
I've never seen that argument made by 'the gun lobby' or more specifically, the nra.
All I see, is someone claiming, with zero evidence provided, that it happened.
Plus, the ability to remotely disable a stolen weapon would surely reduce gun thefts  which happen more than 200,000 times a year, fuel much if not most violent street crime and also create new business for gun manufacturers.
How can it be done, so that a 'stolen gun' can be remotely deactivated, while lawfully owned guns can not?
Like it or not, that's a legitimate concern, and its not going to go away. I wouldn't want some asshat criminal remotely disabling someones smart gun, similar to how hackers have hacked into numerous auto operating systems. Again, that's a legitimate concern.
I bet if we asked the author, he would still insist that private sales of firearms are a huge problem, in spite of claiming that stolen guns "fuel much if not most violent street crime".
The National Rifle Association has long insisted that Americans have no interest in smart-gun technology.
Another very specific claim about the nra, with zero evidence provided.
That number, never credible, is demonstrably proven wrong. On the very remote chance that it was accurate at the time of the survey, events like mass shootings have surely changed attitudes, while smartphones and GPS have acclimated millions to the powers of technology.
Its not demonstrably proven wrong anywhere in this OPINION piece. Its also never proven that the results of the NSSF survey was never credible. The author as much as admits it, when he says "never credible" and then admits in the next sentence that at the very least theres a "very remote chance".
More people are against gun control now than before all these mass shootings the author cites, so that talking point was a falsehood.
And smartphones and GPS have shown the people that actually USE them, that they're less than 100 percent reliable for regular duty, let alone if ones life is on the line. Another talking point deconstructed.
As the public-health researchers put it in an accompanying editorial in the American Journal of Public Health, This suggests a substantial market exists for childproof guns among potential purchasers of new guns.
Pay close attention folks. The "this" in the above paragraph refers to all the falsehoods contained in the previous paragraph. Yes, it really does. Unbelievable huh?
In the perverse logic of gun zealots, the mere idea of a smart gun is distorted into a threat against Second Amendment rights: If smart guns are allowed, they will soon be mandated; then all guns will be tracked; then all guns will be confiscated.
Another strawman. The argument is not that "they will soon be mandated". The argument IS that mandating them has already been done, and the intentions behind it are clear. See NJ. Oh, and 'perverse'? The author needs to sit down and read the cheerleading replies from our anti-gun friends about "the right people" being killed by guns, if he wants to see perverse.
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                        NRA lies smartly exposed: The truth about consumer demand for life-saving smart guns [View all]
							SecularMotion
							Jan 2016
							OP
                        
        
        But how can I use my gun against the gubmint jackboots if they can turn it off????
        Human101948
        Jan 2016
        #1
      
        
        Not all government oppressors wear jackboots. Some wore white bedsheets and hoods.
        Nuclear Unicorn
        Jan 2016
        #3
      
        
        Interesting video- but most   'stupid' guns are very reliable these days,...
        friendly_iconoclast
        Feb 2016
        #64
      
        
        The Mossberg technology works at 2 to 5 inches, has passed mil spec testing and is under testing for
        flamin lib
        Feb 2016
        #67
      
        
        Most gun rights supporters don't oppose the technology or further research per se.
        branford
        Feb 2016
        #68
      
        
        Moving the goal posts while doing everything possible to prevent the technology from
        flamin lib
        Feb 2016
        #69
      
        
        Passing mil spec does not equal proven and reliable, no less for all lawful civilian purposes.
        branford
        Feb 2016
        #74
      
        
        Considering your vehemence that these guns be accepted wholesale and in large quantities...
        krispos42
        Feb 2016
        #80
      
        
        As a firearm owner I will not buy one of these smart. Firearms are simple tools, that is why they
        Waldorf
        Jan 2016
        #24
      
        
        I've visited that group a couple times. I could swear I saw a couple tumbleweeds blowing about.
        Waldorf
        Jan 2016
        #44
      
        
        I think the strongest ticket for the Democratic Party would be Clinton-Castro
        SecularMotion
        Jan 2016
        #46
      
        
        So it appears you do agree that they are less reliable than todays firearms and more expensive. :)
        Waldorf
        Jan 2016
        #42