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In reply to the discussion: Questions the left won't discuss about gun control, but should - and soon. [View all]jimmy the one
(2,776 posts)158. absurdum ad infinitum
        
          ... when the fundies say "God said it, I believe it, that settles it," are they stating a hypothesis? Do they "think it may be true"? 
Again with absurdity, taking a particular alternate definition & applying it broadly.
I say 'You stink', doesn't mean I can actually smell you.
Daughter asks dad did you see my backpack? ... it's out in the car... thanks, as she walks out of the house ... mom comes in & asks have you seen our daughter? .. dad says I believe she went out to the car.
See how this simple vignette destroys any argument you try to make? he doesn't firmly believe whether she went to car, he just believes it so, thinks it so.
straw man; Again, ignore the syntactic matrix at your peril. You are making a fool of yourself. Believe it.
Macho machismo BS from the man of straw. The only fool here is you & your inane argument.
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Straw man's inane argument:
straw man: Hypotheses are developed from what individuals think may be true. If you think that that phrase is equivalent to believe to be true, then you have a problem with your vocabulary as well as your scientific method.
The first affirms acceptance of the hypothesis as fact. The second indicates that more investigation is necessary. They are clearly different.
Observe readers the dictionary definition of hypothesis; note how hypotheses have been formulated countless times in the past by researchers who either 'believe' it to be true, or simply 'think may be true'. :
oxford: A supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation
.. general: an idea that attempts to explain something but has not yet been tested or proved to be correct.
.. Merriam Webster: .. an idea or theory that is not proven but that leads to further study or discussion http://www.onelook.com/?w=hypothesis&ls=a
Whether a man actually believes his 'proposed explanation' is true, or thinks his idea 'may be true', does not refute that his idea is a hypothesis. You hair split the meaning of 'believe' & 'think may be'.
merr websters: Full Definition of HYPOTHESIS a : an assumption or concession made for the sake of argument
b : an interpretation of a practical situation or condition taken as the ground for action
2 a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences
I made an assumption which I both believe & think may be true.
You strawman, split hairs with strained reasoning, and argue the absurd.
          
          
          
        
        Again with absurdity, taking a particular alternate definition & applying it broadly.
I say 'You stink', doesn't mean I can actually smell you.
Daughter asks dad did you see my backpack? ... it's out in the car... thanks, as she walks out of the house ... mom comes in & asks have you seen our daughter? .. dad says I believe she went out to the car.
See how this simple vignette destroys any argument you try to make? he doesn't firmly believe whether she went to car, he just believes it so, thinks it so.
straw man; Again, ignore the syntactic matrix at your peril. You are making a fool of yourself. Believe it.
Macho machismo BS from the man of straw. The only fool here is you & your inane argument.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Straw man's inane argument:
straw man: Hypotheses are developed from what individuals think may be true. If you think that that phrase is equivalent to believe to be true, then you have a problem with your vocabulary as well as your scientific method.
The first affirms acceptance of the hypothesis as fact. The second indicates that more investigation is necessary. They are clearly different.
Observe readers the dictionary definition of hypothesis; note how hypotheses have been formulated countless times in the past by researchers who either 'believe' it to be true, or simply 'think may be true'. :
oxford: A supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation
.. general: an idea that attempts to explain something but has not yet been tested or proved to be correct.
.. Merriam Webster: .. an idea or theory that is not proven but that leads to further study or discussion http://www.onelook.com/?w=hypothesis&ls=a
Whether a man actually believes his 'proposed explanation' is true, or thinks his idea 'may be true', does not refute that his idea is a hypothesis. You hair split the meaning of 'believe' & 'think may be'.
merr websters: Full Definition of HYPOTHESIS a : an assumption or concession made for the sake of argument
b : an interpretation of a practical situation or condition taken as the ground for action
2 a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences
I made an assumption which I both believe & think may be true.
You strawman, split hairs with strained reasoning, and argue the absurd.
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                        Questions the left won't discuss about gun control, but should - and soon. [View all]
							EdwardBernays
							Oct 2015
							OP
                        
        
        sure but you would need to PROVE that your law would absolutely improve...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Oct 2015
        #16
      
        
        Yup, Ireland's always been such a peacful, safe place with no violence to speak of
        DonP
        Oct 2015
        #75
      
        
        Your WaPo articles speaks to gun violence, not violence as a whole as GE was speaking.
        Nuclear Unicorn
        Oct 2015
        #54
      
        
        Welcome.  I will respond when I have time to consider your questions thoroughly...
        Eleanors38
        Oct 2015
        #19
      
        
        I would restrict concealed carry permits to trained professionals with a demonstrated need.
        Maedhros
        Oct 2015
        #27
      
        
        I wasn't suggesting that it was. I was simply pointing out that a carrying populace does not
        Kang Colby
        Oct 2015
        #34
      
        
        "Too bad no one but the two of us is reading it." Incorrect, unfortunately for the Stuart heir
        friendly_iconoclast
        Oct 2015
        #160
      
        
        I currently "live with" tens of thousands of alcohol-related deaths a year...
        Eleanors38
        Oct 2015
        #80
      
        
        I should have said that there are no mass killings in other countries like in the US.
        guillaumeb
        Oct 2015
        #104
      
        
        Let's see two threads today about people getting shot by reckless concealed carry
        upaloopa
        Oct 2015
        #127
      
  