Gun Control & RKBA

beevul

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32. Ok.

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:21 PM

Sep 2015

We really need to admit that we have a gun violence culture that does not exist in other countries.

Can we also admit that this culture you refer to is comprised by less than a tenth of a percent of those who own guns?

It is as if we are to accept gun violence as a given rather then do anything to try and control guns in this country because of the 2nd Amendment.

That's based on the premise that gun control is the only answer. Do you really think it is the only answer?

The problem as I see it is in the Supreme Court's interpretation of the meaning of the 2nd Amendment.
I do not agree that the 2nd Amendment conveys the right to keep and bear arms in the abstract.

And yet, amendment 2 restricts only government, not individuals. It can not convey or grant any rights. It can only protect them.

My vision is that everyone in this country, gun owners and non gun owners would agree that we can't keep ignoring the gun violence problem we have.

I think everyone already agrees with this. The 99.9x percent of gun owners that aren't committing any gun violence, however, do not appreciate it being laid at their feet as if they are the problem.

Because they aren't.

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If you ever wondered what Skinner thought about pro-gun posts [View all] hack89 Sep 2015 OP

Nothing against him, but why start a thread on what someone else thinks? n/t Dawgs Sep 2015 #1

We have a small but vocal contingent that come here to tell us we don't belong on DU hack89 Sep 2015 #2

Problem is, the poster referenced actually thinks he speaks for all Democrats DonP Sep 2015 #3

In large part because of the "purity" of those "real Democrats," branford Sep 2015 #17

And the 2016 Presidential looks to be shaping up like 2014 because the presumed candidate has -57% leveymg Sep 2015 #27

I'd like to think you're correct... beevul Sep 2015 #16

The sine qua non of gun control/prohibition is elite positioning... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #25

I think Skinner realizes lots of folks here have a pretty narrow view of the 2A. ileus Sep 2015 #4

Sad day when a democrat Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #5

I agree SecularMotion Sep 2015 #6

Then work to change the GD SoP and stop complaining DonP Sep 2015 #7

So true Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #9

It is easier to complain, than to do anything real. n/t oneshooter Sep 2015 #11

But there is a designated place on the forum for them Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #8

When was the last sarisataka Sep 2015 #10

All forums ,exept the one he hosts.n/t oneshooter Sep 2015 #12

Looks like they killed off another Gun Con"Troll" sock puppet DonP Sep 2015 #13

Whatever happened to sarisataka Sep 2015 #14

Just guessing, but probably TS'd by MIRT DonP Sep 2015 #15

Was it that guy from Italy again??? ileus Sep 2015 #23

Could have been. The songs were the same. N/T DonP Sep 2015 #24

VOLARE! Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #26

I'd say... Kang Colby Sep 2015 #18

Think of it this way ... DonP Sep 2015 #19

"pure" ??? discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #20

Yup, if they have their way, that's the model to follow - but without the nice furniture DonP Sep 2015 #21

I agree. Kang Colby Sep 2015 #22

In my book being a Dem and upaloopa Sep 2015 #28

There are few gun owners on DU that don't support gun control to some degree or another hack89 Sep 2015 #29

I not going to try and restrict views on DU. upaloopa Sep 2015 #30

But as my OP shows, there are some that are trying to restrict views. hack89 Sep 2015 #31

Using names like "radical controllers" is the pot upaloopa Sep 2015 #33

On par with "gun humpers" and "ammosexuals"? hack89 Sep 2015 #35

Ok. beevul Sep 2015 #32

I am not laying it at their feet. What I do lay at upaloopa Sep 2015 #34

Maybe you aren't. But there sure are alot who do. beevul Sep 2015 #36

The "ignoring gun violence" claim is particularly offensive. branford Sep 2015 #37