Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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56. Oh FFS. How about the LA Times?

Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:30 PM

Apr 2013

Airline pilot Bill Doss actually wrote to the California Justice Department to confirm that his SKS rifle was legal to bring into the state. The department told Doss--and hundreds of others--that the law only applied to one type of SKS rifle and that his was legal. Then a court read the law more broadly and made thousands of people accidental felons because they had relied on the department's position. An unprecedented retroactive immunity law, which included a multimillion-dollar SKS buy-back program, was passed in 1998.

Then there are problems with registrations. The law requires "assault weapons" to be registered and establishes grace periods. Preferring to know where these guns are and believing the law allowed it, former Atty. Gen. Dan Lungren continued to encourage and accept grace period registrations through 1998. Handgun Control Inc. sued him. When Bill Lockyer was elected attorney general, he dropped the opposition to the Handgun Control lawsuit. As a result, thousands of registrations were invalidated and owners were "dispossessed" of their guns without any payment. So in California, registration indeed did lead to confiscation.

-- http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jul/23/local/me-25465

Surely they fact-check their op-eds. Or do you require a notarized eyewitness statement?

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Gun control: How a US liberal learned to love guns [View all] Blue_Tires Apr 2013 OP

The video on YT Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #1

His gun cabinet Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #2

I would bet this guy is for background checks and record keeping. nt rdharma Apr 2013 #3

And I'll bet he ISN'T ... Straw Man Apr 2013 #4

No bet. rdharma Apr 2013 #5

OK. Straw Man Apr 2013 #6

I would support record keeping if there was a clause in the bill premium Apr 2013 #7

This is the problem with trying to reduce this fear...a clause is wonderful jmg257 Apr 2013 #11

Some one, some where should be able to come up with a safeguard premium Apr 2013 #12

Yep...just wait to see how you feel when they start kicking your butt on XBox. jmg257 Apr 2013 #19

XBox? premium Apr 2013 #21

A solution has been proposed here at DU. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #36

That is a variation of the FOID approach. I support it. ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #51

As long as it doubles as a voter ID, sure. CobblePuller Apr 2013 #60

"enable confiscation" rdharma Apr 2013 #8

It already happened in CA. premium Apr 2013 #9

So which ones were "confiscated"? nt rdharma Apr 2013 #13

The SKS rifles. premium Apr 2013 #15

So tell me...... which ones? rdharma Apr 2013 #18

Sorry I wasn't more detailed. premium Apr 2013 #20

SKS "sporter rifle"? rdharma Apr 2013 #22

SKS was originally a Soviet designed rifle used in WWII. premium Apr 2013 #24

Yes. Straw Man Apr 2013 #26

Finally! rdharma Apr 2013 #35

Really? Straw Man Apr 2013 #10

Which SKSs "confiscated" in CA? nt rdharma Apr 2013 #14

What do you mean which ones? premium Apr 2013 #16

Evidently you don't know. nt rdharma Apr 2013 #17

Not quite. Straw Man Apr 2013 #28

You're correct. premium Apr 2013 #31

These. Straw Man Apr 2013 #23

That's the letter I was looking for. premium Apr 2013 #25

So....... you don't know, eh? rdharma Apr 2013 #27

What? Straw Man Apr 2013 #29

Oh, you did? Where was that stated? rdharma Apr 2013 #32

Here. Straw Man Apr 2013 #34

Sole purpose here is to disrupt. premium Apr 2013 #33

You got that right. sylvi Apr 2013 #37

Confiscation claim...... not verified! rdharma Apr 2013 #39

So when you get a letter ... Straw Man Apr 2013 #42

Did you get that letter? rdharma Apr 2013 #43

I linked it above. Straw Man Apr 2013 #44

So you didn't get the letter..... and you don't know of any confiscations! nt rdharma Apr 2013 #50

And you didn't land on the moon. Straw Man Apr 2013 #54

Oh, do tell..... ONE EXAMPLE? rdharma Apr 2013 #55

Oh FFS. How about the LA Times? Straw Man Apr 2013 #56

FTW! derby378 Apr 2013 #57

Chuck Michel - His clients include the National Rifle Assn. ......... nt rdharma Apr 2013 #58

And the LA Times doesn't fact-check? Straw Man Apr 2013 #59

Good God Man -- CokeMachine Apr 2013 #45

I think it's the notary seal. It doesn't impress on his screen like paper. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #69

Average Gun Guys BeyondGeography Apr 2013 #30

We do. Thanks. (n/t) spin Apr 2013 #41

Thanks! But there are a lot of lasses, too. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #64

I finished reading his book a couple of days ago. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #38

So.... is MR. Baum for UBC and record keeping? nt rdharma Apr 2013 #40

Did you watch the video? eom CokeMachine Apr 2013 #46

Yes. Did you? nt rdharma Apr 2013 #47

Yep -- he's all for background checks -- did I miss something? eom CokeMachine Apr 2013 #48

he's all for background checks rdharma Apr 2013 #49

Then why did you ask it ten times? CokeMachine Apr 2013 #52

"What were you trying to accomplish?" rdharma Apr 2013 #53

The day I see you have a point here... CobblePuller Apr 2013 #61

It's pretty obvious at this point premium Apr 2013 #62

Cut the disruption & hijacking. nt Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #63

Truth? You can't stand the truth! rdharma Apr 2013 #65

If you are going to attempt to post a quote from a movie, Jenoch Apr 2013 #67

I don't get your point Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #66

great point. ileus Sep 2015 #68