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lumberjack_jeff

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18. I'm working on the assumption that you asked a question

Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:38 PM

Jul 2012

... and that your respectful insistence that I not answer it is rhetorical.

No. I don't agree that he's twisting the decision. The context of single sex classrooms meets Justice Ginsburg's test for "dissipating traditional gender classifications".

If we get girls to take (and enjoy) physics, it's a good thing - even if it uses techniques based on their familiar experiences.

In fact, I argue that school environments which effectively discourage girls from science, physics and math create "artificial constraints on individuals’ opportunity."

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More public schools splitting up boys, girls [View all] Starry Messenger Jul 2012 OP

my radical ideas handmade34 Jul 2012 #1

"Most destructive is age (discrimination): Yes! Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #27

The results of single sex classrooms have been positive. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #2

Also negative- Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #3

The FCAT itself is notoriously unreliable- Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #4

More on the studies of Leonard Sax, the web owner of Single Sex Schools- Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #5

Thank you for posting this obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #6

In addition, Sax's website even twists court decisions obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #7

Justice Ginsburg lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #13

So you agree Sax's website twists the VMI case's decsiion? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #17

I'm working on the assumption that you asked a question lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #18

The feminist case for SS classrooms is that is has been shown to increase girls test scores 30%. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #8

"Teaching Boys and Girls Separately" Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #9

Schools can't do anything about socioeconomic status of the families living in the district. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #11

Parents who choose schools are defacto more involved in their children's education. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #14

"Pseudoscience in Sax on Sex" Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #10

I'm more persuaded by arguments that refute the outcomes. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #12

Jeff, I am politely asking you to knock it off, now obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #15

It's worse. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #16

From the president of Bryn Mawr. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #19

Bryn Mawr is not a public school. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #20

The "why" matters, else it's hard to ascribe the outcome to the intervention. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #22

In this case, both the blue eyed and brown eyed students tested better. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #23

You missed the point about eye color but bias is one way that data can be corrupted. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #24

I don't think I did. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #25

Without at least a strong correlation it's just a guess. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #29

I agree to this extent. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #30

Do banks issue Mortgages based upon gender or income, payment histories etc? One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #21

Very bad idea. nt ladjf Jul 2012 #26

I'm so damn tired of everything being politicized. xfundy Jul 2012 #28

I thought we figured out that "Separate but Equal" kdmorris Jul 2012 #31

Public education in the US has been co-ed since the early 1900's too. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #32

I have three daughters, as well kdmorris Jul 2012 #33

Perfectly stated! Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #34