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Starry Messenger

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3. Also negative-
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 01:57 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/23/education/23single.html

Single-Sex Education Is Assailed in Report
By TAMAR LEWIN
Published: September 22, 2011



The report, “The Pseudoscience of Single Sex Schooling,” to be published in Science magazine by eight social scientists who are founders of the nonprofit American Council for CoEducational Schooling, is likely to ignite a new round of debate and legal wrangling about the effects of single-sex education.

It asserts that “sex-segregated education is deeply misguided and often justified by weak, cherry-picked or misconstrued scientific claims rather than by valid scientific evidence.”

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Dr. Sax, executive director of the National Association of Single Sex Public Education, was singled out for criticism in the Science article, for his teachings that boys respond better to energetic, confrontational classrooms while girls need a gentler touch.

“A loud, cold classroom where you toss balls around, like Dr. Sax thinks boys should have, might be great for some boys, and for some girls, but for some boys, it would be living hell,” Dr. Halpern said in an interview. She said that while girls are better readers and get better grades, and boys are more likely to have reading disabilities, that does not mean that educators should use the group average to design different classrooms. “It’s simply not true that boys and girls learn differently,” she said. “Advocates for single-sex education don’t like the parallel with racial segregation, but the parallels are there. We used to believe that the races learned differently, too.”

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While some studies have found better outcomes from single-sex schools, the article said, the purported advantages disappear when outcomes are corrected for pre-existing differences. For example, Chicago’s Urban Prep Charter Academy for Young Men, a school whose high college admissions rates were praised this year by Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, was subsequently criticized by the scholar Diane Ravitch as having test results that were actually lower than average on basic skills.

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my radical ideas handmade34 Jul 2012 #1
"Most destructive is age (discrimination): Yes! Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #27
The results of single sex classrooms have been positive. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #2
Also negative- Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #3
The FCAT itself is notoriously unreliable- Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #4
More on the studies of Leonard Sax, the web owner of Single Sex Schools- Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #5
Thank you for posting this obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #6
In addition, Sax's website even twists court decisions obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #7
Justice Ginsburg lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #13
So you agree Sax's website twists the VMI case's decsiion? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #17
I'm working on the assumption that you asked a question lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #18
The feminist case for SS classrooms is that is has been shown to increase girls test scores 30%. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #8
"Teaching Boys and Girls Separately" Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #9
Schools can't do anything about socioeconomic status of the families living in the district. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #11
Parents who choose schools are defacto more involved in their children's education. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #14
"Pseudoscience in Sax on Sex" Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #10
I'm more persuaded by arguments that refute the outcomes. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #12
Jeff, I am politely asking you to knock it off, now obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #15
It's worse. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #16
From the president of Bryn Mawr. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #19
Bryn Mawr is not a public school. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #20
The "why" matters, else it's hard to ascribe the outcome to the intervention. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #22
In this case, both the blue eyed and brown eyed students tested better. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #23
You missed the point about eye color but bias is one way that data can be corrupted. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #24
I don't think I did. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #25
Without at least a strong correlation it's just a guess. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #29
I agree to this extent. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #30
Do banks issue Mortgages based upon gender or income, payment histories etc? One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #21
Very bad idea. nt ladjf Jul 2012 #26
I'm so damn tired of everything being politicized. xfundy Jul 2012 #28
I thought we figured out that "Separate but Equal" kdmorris Jul 2012 #31
Public education in the US has been co-ed since the early 1900's too. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #32
I have three daughters, as well kdmorris Jul 2012 #33
Perfectly stated! Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #34
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