Feminists

Kali

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59. hi there

Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:48 AM

Feb 2012

sorry to butt in but I have this strange need for fairness and truth. you wrote

Apparently instead of wanting to sort things out with me, she wanted to ban members she was upset with in the flame-war.

which looks like speculation to me. is there any evidence of this motive you are attributing to someone who can't respond here? I have read the off-site postings and didn't really see you objecting to the site itself at all, although you did question the need to ban one poster. I guess I am missing the evidence that you felt uncomfortable with the method of host communication until after the fact.

did you actually discuss your discomfort with your co-hosts at the time, anywhere? I haven't seen it anywhere I have looked - the long threads in meta, the host forum, the off-site host page with 40 posts in it, here in this group. Perhaps you communicated your discomfort/objections to the off-site discussion with the other hosts by PM? I'm curious why YOU didn't bring it up anywhere if you were unsure of its legitimacy.

I am sorry to step in and question a host of a forum I don't belong to, but I am trying hard to see your point of view and I confess this rather difficult given all the evidence I have looked at so far.

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To all who has been concerned. [View all] Neoma Feb 2012 OP

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Should we take this to mean DURHAM D Feb 2012 #2

oh my obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #6

I'll be un subscribing now. I want nothing to do with a group sufrommich Feb 2012 #3

Me too! Thanks for the idea. Little Star Feb 2012 #9

That was a very thoughtful note from EarlG. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #4

I was as impressed as you, Ruby. Very well-thought out & considerate. pacalo Feb 2012 #112

Really? redqueen Feb 2012 #5

I'm still has concern. boston bean Feb 2012 #7

Read post #94 WingDinger Feb 2012 #95

I'm unsubscribing Pithlet Feb 2012 #8

Good for you. I hope some of the more reasonable and thoughtful posters in this Group Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #10

I cosign this post obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #12

This is as awesome & as on target as a comment could be in regard to how this OP affected me, too. pacalo Feb 2012 #114

Latest Breaking News, General Discussion, Video & Media, or Good Reads seabeyond Feb 2012 #116

"job well done. you can take the safe haven out. there is no need." pacalo Feb 2012 #118

your wording is odd. seabeyond Feb 2012 #119

Forgive me for my writing skills, but I find it odd that you would talk to me like that. pacalo Feb 2012 #120

hm. the not welcome in conversation, threw me. seabeyond Feb 2012 #121

And the answer to my question is...? pacalo Feb 2012 #122

Neoma, Once again you show great leadership skills. William769 Feb 2012 #11

+1 n/t Shining Jack Feb 2012 #20

I look forward to this group getting back on track. tammywammy Feb 2012 #13

You have shown real courage this past week, Neoma. This is what feminism is all about. yardwork Feb 2012 #14

If banning voting and all dissent is feminism, count me out... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #72

Empowering women to think for themselves is the essence of feminism. yardwork Feb 2012 #106

Dear Neoma, my reasonable response to you... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #15

I thought Neoma's comment (which you quoted) applied only to those who were bullying her. pacalo Feb 2012 #117

Thank you for all the transparency. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #16

Wow. It's all about you. Gonna go play with the OTHER feminists. kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #17

You deserve a medal quinnox Feb 2012 #18

For me, and I fully supported Neoma, it has become a matter of trust. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #21

I can understand if Neoma needed to vent a little quinnox Feb 2012 #23

I truly wish you all the best of luck. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #24

I'm an outsider to this forum quinnox Feb 2012 #25

One thing I noted here, Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #27

I never took a pot shot Texasgal Feb 2012 #31

Guessing you were post #20? Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #34

Hey! That.... justiceischeap Feb 2012 #37

And she locked my very reasonable thread here. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #32

I agree Laura. Texasgal Feb 2012 #33

And, if these posts are allowed to stand by jury, I would lay money ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #35

I really need to go to bed justiceischeap Feb 2012 #36

It was not. It was a thread on my experience here, as a feminist and what I saw happening. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #39

How embarrassing! justiceischeap Feb 2012 #42

she locked redqueens thread about moving on. boston bean Feb 2012 #45

I agree that one doesn't make sense. justiceischeap Feb 2012 #46

I am sorry. But the forum is just as inclusive as it was before... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #47

I don't know what thread that was Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #41

For it to be locked? No I asked her to unlock it so that I could delete it so that she ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #43

I just looked, and it seems all Meta-ish threads talking about about the forum Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #50

I would agree...if the opportunity had been given for me to delete it. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #53

This isn't my forum by any stretch. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #55

This is not the feedback I am receiving from the host. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #56

Patriarchy IS class warfare (and vice versa) Remember Me Feb 2012 #109

I am very sorry to see this. wildflower Feb 2012 #19

One of the best ideas in this thread. BlueIris Feb 2012 #63

Thank you BlueIris...please feel free to take the idea and use it! wildflower Feb 2012 #84

As a subscriber Texasgal Feb 2012 #22

It costs money to read/post here? nt Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #28

Ummm sure will. Texasgal Feb 2012 #30

I think you are confused. First, I don't host H&M - never have Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #38

Good GOD! Texasgal Feb 2012 #44

I am as calm as can be. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #49

I admire you, Neoma enigmatic Feb 2012 #26

Could you kindly correct your grammar in your subject line? hlthe2b Feb 2012 #29

Ya know... UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2012 #40

The admin thing could be because of me justiceischeap Feb 2012 #48

I was more talking about the TONE of her post. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2012 #52

I agree, it's an obvious attempt BlueIris Feb 2012 #64

I hate to say I told you so.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #69

Just so I understand Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #51

No, the other thread explains more about why I banned her. MANY reasons. Neoma Feb 2012 #57

hi there Kali Feb 2012 #59

It's a she said she said situation. Neoma Feb 2012 #60

so you objected to the off-DU site by PMs to your co-hosts? Kali Feb 2012 #62

Wow. JTFrog Feb 2012 #130

You really should step down LaurenG Feb 2012 #142

That's a pretty fair summary. n/t laconicsax Feb 2012 #61

you nailed it n/t Scout Feb 2012 #86

Yes, that is it exactly. Rex Feb 2012 #124

I would have preferred option 3 MadrasT Feb 2012 #54

Good grief! Th1onein Feb 2012 #58

Rec - nt Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #65

Congratulations on your appointment as a group co-host here. BlueIris Feb 2012 #68

No announcement, no consultation, no nothing... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #82

To say she's done nothing for you is absolutely false CreekDog Feb 2012 #85

'scuse me, but most of the "work" she did was to clean up the mess Scout Feb 2012 #87

just a fyi, but only juries can hide a post. n/t maddezmom Feb 2012 #88

yes, and anyone can send the alert to the Jury, including Neoma. n/t Scout Feb 2012 #90

this is just more noise CreekDog Feb 2012 #89

what lies have i told? prove it. Scout Feb 2012 #91

Animosity. NT William769 Feb 2012 #93

so, my position according to you is "animosity" and according to CreekDog Scout Feb 2012 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author redqueen Feb 2012 #92

"The fact that you are still here is a miracle, and I'm surprised you haven't caught on to that." ellisonz Feb 2012 #66

I've PMd you with some questions. Just like I've done for the past few days... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #67

"Did EarlG give you permission to post his PM?" tammywammy Feb 2012 #70

Sorry, I missed in amongst all the stuff about losing 11 pounds in one day and banning voting! Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #71

Sorry, but she didn't say that. polly7 Feb 2012 #73

No, she said one week. My mistake... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #74

Well, to be fair ........ no-one knows what else is going on with Neoma's life, and polly7 Feb 2012 #75

I honestly don't give a shit about her life story. I was a member here because of feminism... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #76

She wasn't self-appointed. She became host when the previous polly7 Feb 2012 #77

She sacked the other hosts that we'd all elected.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #78

Ziiiiiing! polly7 Feb 2012 #79

See ya in the other group, polly! Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #80

Bingo. tpsbmam Feb 2012 #83

No one has explicitly brought up the fact that EarlG suggested THREE options, tpsbmam Feb 2012 #81

There is one very good option thus far untouched. WingDinger Feb 2012 #94

Are you forgetting this is a women's forum? UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2012 #97

Just throwing it out there. I dont want to be that nemesis. WingDinger Feb 2012 #98

I was just kidding. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2012 #99

Yeah, and as long as tpsbmam Feb 2012 #101

"The fact that you are still here is a miracle, and I'm surprised you haven't caught on to that" jeff47 Feb 2012 #100

+1 snagglepuss Feb 2012 #107

Looks like that is what this group is going to be all about. Rex Feb 2012 #127

Is it possible she was referring to the group being allowed to continue by the admins polly7 Feb 2012 #128

The admins shutting it down isn't any better jeff47 Feb 2012 #129

Right? JTFrog Feb 2012 #131

Have never really read this forum but K8-EEE Feb 2012 #102

The use of women as Rethug whipping girls, has an effect. WingDinger Feb 2012 #103

The thing that everyone seems to be missing here is: Puglover Feb 2012 #104

Unfortunately, to quote Rumsfeld, democracy is messy. WingDinger Feb 2012 #105

I agree with what you say. Puglover Feb 2012 #108

I didn't miss it. In fact, that's the part that bothers me most and why I reacted the way I did. Pithlet Feb 2012 #110

I could not agree more. hlthe2b Feb 2012 #111

+1 ellisonz Feb 2012 #113

There were two election threads. Neoma locked both of them. laconicsax Feb 2012 #115

Why on earth did you not pick option 3? Chemisse Feb 2012 #123

It's easy to speculate why someone wouldn't start an election that may unseat them. laconicsax Feb 2012 #125

+1 n/t JTFrog Feb 2012 #132

Enjoy your fiefdom Amaril Feb 2012 #126

By the way it's "to all who HAVE been concerned". JTFrog Feb 2012 #133

I still has a concern. laconicsax Feb 2012 #134

Bullying: it’s not just for kids polly7 Feb 2012 #135

I agree. Neoma's iron fist is trying to bully us into submission. n/t laconicsax Feb 2012 #136

+1 JTFrog Feb 2012 #137

Not even asking for a democratic solution--asking if there will be a democratic solution. laconicsax Feb 2012 #138

lmao. polly7 Feb 2012 #140

Really ?? polly7 Feb 2012 #139

Thanks for demonstrating that you have no clue what you're talking about. laconicsax Feb 2012 #141