Feminists

MineralMan

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9. I have no doubt that there are some women who hate some men.

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:24 PM

Feb 2012

I'm sure there are some women who hate all men. That's easily understood. But, whenever I see someone generalizing about women in a negative way, I know that it's not the women who are the problem. People seem to frequently make the logical error of assigning the attributes of a single example to an entire class. In fact, that may well be the most common logical error of all.

I can't say that I always agree with Andrea Dworkin on every issue, but I imagine I share that with many people, men and women alike. I don't equate her with the feminist movement in general, though.

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Since I grew up in the 60s, I think the whole idea [View all] MineralMan Feb 2012 OP

my ex-- with whom I remain close friends... mike_c Feb 2012 #1

i am afraid seabeyond Feb 2012 #5

I grew up in the 60s too. MarianJack Feb 2012 #2

hey.... seabeyond Feb 2012 #6

She was a great lady. MarianJack Feb 2012 #11

The radical notion that women are actually people tavalon Feb 2012 #62

As I said, tavalon,... MarianJack Feb 2012 #64

Actually, I knew that, but I've always felt a resonance with it. tavalon Feb 2012 #65

You know, tavalon, what you say remonds me... MarianJack Feb 2012 #66

that you MM. and all the men and boys in my life would certainly agree. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #3

What about separatist feminists? redqueen Feb 2012 #4

one could also ask iverglas Feb 2012 #7

This is what I don't get... redqueen Feb 2012 #10

Let me tell you my story LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #18

How very odd. redqueen Feb 2012 #19

This was a predominantly gay women's meeting LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #22

Aha, now it makes sense. redqueen Feb 2012 #23

"N.O.W. was hijacked by women who hated other women" Scout Feb 2012 #20

this is the interesting paradox iverglas Feb 2012 #21

Wow. Just wow. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #67

I have no doubt that there are some women who hate some men. MineralMan Feb 2012 #9

Hah! I nearly typed that myself in my reply... redqueen Feb 2012 #12

Ever heard Ice T's song "Big Gun"? ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #74

And some of the so-called hatred that may exist is really Remember Me Feb 2012 #46

well about Dworkin DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #51

agreed. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #52

Personally ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #75

That's your opinion DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #77

I don't see how anyone could like ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #78

Well played milady, and game on. DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #80

I have actually known a few kdmorris Feb 2012 #8

There are certainly reasons for individual women to hate or fear MineralMan Feb 2012 #13

I know women like that too LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #42

Me too! kdmorris Feb 2012 #50

There was a period, collegewise, where all ills, genderwise, were the fault of men. WingDinger Feb 2012 #14

We are all in this together. seabeyond Feb 2012 #15

++ This is a universal truth cbrer Feb 2012 #43

so true... hey, seabeyond Feb 2012 #44

This is a really thoughtful and profound comment MadrasT Feb 2012 #27

Madras, if you've ever said, Remember Me Feb 2012 #48

A VERY nice, even powerful post Remember Me Feb 2012 #47

You are right about one thing. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #68

What's bad is that even in these Texasgal Feb 2012 #16

I'm not sure if this is accurate across the board, but it MineralMan Feb 2012 #17

I didn't say across the board. Texasgal Feb 2012 #26

The amount of overt and covert sexism on DU has always amazed me and efhmc Feb 2012 #79

yes, exactly a way to shame and shut you up. my boys laugh. we joke about it in the house seabeyond Feb 2012 #24

I'm a feminist and fought hard for the ERA. I never hated men nor did I give them up! sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #25

I would consider my wife a feminist. She just calls herself just a lady however. Broderick Feb 2012 #28

i dont know that seabeyond Feb 2012 #29

My mother passed quite some years ago. Broderick Feb 2012 #30

not so hard, i dont think seabeyond Feb 2012 #32

Oh so familiar Broderick Feb 2012 #57

+1 CrispyQ Feb 2012 #69

My experience was different. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #31

that is an interesting perspective.... seabeyond Feb 2012 #33

My wife told me she ran into a small group like that once. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #34

well.... and what i learned last week, lol seabeyond Feb 2012 #35

Post the good bits. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #36

i have posted a couple articles i enjoyed. seabeyond Feb 2012 #39

Was the same subgroup 40+ years ago unc70 Feb 2012 #71

Yeah, I believe it comes from their very deep woundedness Remember Me Feb 2012 #49

Would you say, as a DU man, that mistertrickster Feb 2012 #37

cat fights, fur flying men having a jolly old time.... at the expense of seabeyond Feb 2012 #40

It was a yes or no question . . . mistertrickster Feb 2012 #41

emphatically, YES du men agree with the political feminist goals. emphatically, YES. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #45

Yes, I think so, but then, I don't know most DUers very well. MineralMan Feb 2012 #56

Thank you for a thread acknowledging the prevalence of this idiot stereotype. BlueIris Feb 2012 #38

Let me offer this DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #53

exactly... the consternation and defensiveness with the first reported rape seabeyond Feb 2012 #55

You know I was not going there. BUT DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #58

sure. but that is often times the hard part of being pragmatic and speaking out seabeyond Feb 2012 #60

"no need to defend, excuse, or dismiss." DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #59

exactly. this is what i am talking about. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #61

I think the hard wiring is so different BlueToTheBone Feb 2012 #54

Men who said that preferred being hated to being ignored n/t eridani Feb 2012 #63

~lol! CrispyQ Feb 2012 #70

You know ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #72

Thanks, but not even I love all my posts. MineralMan Feb 2012 #76

You know ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #73