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TriMera

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34. The fact that you continue to deny

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:07 PM

Feb 2012

that there was a problem with trans-phobic / homophobic remarks that were posted in this group tells me that you condone the behavior. You stood up for this bigotry 3 times and you are still doing it by denying that it ever happened, even after the guilty parties were shown the door by the admins for those remarks.

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I have unblocked iverglas [View all] redqueen Feb 2012 OP

good. we all spoke out promising a member would not be banned, when they have broken no rules seabeyond Feb 2012 #1

my ears are burning unblock Feb 2012 #2

that is suggesting you are hearing stuff. wanna share? nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #3

if you seabeyond the body of my post, you might get a little chuckle out of it. unblock Feb 2012 #9

ya... seabeyond Feb 2012 #10

how about a iverglas Feb 2012 #11

lol redqueen Feb 2012 #4

I have no problem with it. And actually, I think that you should boston bean Feb 2012 #5

I will leave any discussion about a new election redqueen Feb 2012 #8

good. because frankly, if iverglas were blocked from this forum Scout Feb 2012 #6

Ditto. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #15

for co-hosts iverglas Feb 2012 #24

okay, second thoughts iverglas Feb 2012 #27

I agree absolutely nt Remember Me Feb 2012 #93

Neoma should resign as co-host now iverglas Feb 2012 #7

If everyone resigned except requeen, then she would be re-installed as top host boston bean Feb 2012 #12

as long as Neoma goes first ;) iverglas Feb 2012 #13

Well, it wouldn't work unless everyone except redqueen resigned. boston bean Feb 2012 #16

that's true iverglas Feb 2012 #17

I still think it's important to have a host up the top who has been voted in. boston bean Feb 2012 #18

i think that has to be a given. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #19

bb, I am *agreeing* with you iverglas Feb 2012 #21

I do hope that this is the course that is taken. boston bean Feb 2012 #25

true that. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #14

I should have said this earlier... redqueen Feb 2012 #94

No problem with your decision maddezmom Feb 2012 #20

interesting. thanks for the input maddez.... nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #22

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #23

How about we just agree not to make anybody with a history of homo- or transphobic comments a host? LeftyMom Feb 2012 #26

frankly, iverglas Feb 2012 #28

What crew? LeftyMom Feb 2012 #29

again, iverglas Feb 2012 #32

I'm not implying anything. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #52

your defense of transphobia this week makes you VASTLY unqualified to be a host of this forum La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #30

your misrepresentation of my words and myself iverglas Feb 2012 #31

The fact that you continue to deny TriMera Feb 2012 #34

the fact that you continue to misrepresent anything and everything iverglas Feb 2012 #35

I'm not trying to take sides here, but I would like to see some evidence as well. redqueen Feb 2012 #43

See post #47. n/t TriMera Feb 2012 #49

I'm going to be more direct iverglas Feb 2012 #33

I will not provide links because there were plenty of conversations La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #37

more misrepresentation iverglas Feb 2012 #39

are you claiming that you did not defend the comments feldspar and sara bellum made? La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #40

I think it's obvious that by asking for a quote, redqueen Feb 2012 #44

No one defended transphobic comments. redqueen Feb 2012 #42

sorry, I strongly disagree with you here redqueen maddezmom Feb 2012 #45

Right, so she did defend "mann coulter" as not being transphobic. redqueen Feb 2012 #50

iverglas did, indeed, defend Feldspar from the very start. TriMera Feb 2012 #47

I asked about all these transphobic comments she defended. redqueen Feb 2012 #53

There were 3 days between when Sera Bellum made her trans-phobic TriMera Feb 2012 #57

Sera Bellum has been PPR'd twice. redqueen Feb 2012 #71

I'm sorry, redqueen. You're right. I'm referring TriMera Feb 2012 #74

See, here again, this group would benefit from discussion of these things. redqueen Feb 2012 #87

Yes, FAAB in this instance was a dog whistle. TriMera Feb 2012 #98

I thought I did make that clear. redqueen Feb 2012 #102

i don't think it was proven it was a sock-puppet account Remember Me Feb 2012 #104

yes it was proven maddezmom Feb 2012 #107

i thought feldspar was. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #108

Feldspar as far as I know was Sera's partner maddezmom Feb 2012 #110

i heard feldspar was the one posting as evolve_. i heard it was TWO women. seabeyond Feb 2012 #119

here read through this maddezmom Feb 2012 #124

I don't know what goes on in the MIRT group... redqueen Feb 2012 #109

that troll certainly got it's money's worth. boston bean Feb 2012 #126

i didnt say she had to be banned from the group. i said she is unsuitable to be a host. nt La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #66

Noted. redqueen Feb 2012 #72

yes, she did and imo so did seabeyond La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #51

"discuss whether transwomen are really real women" what? nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #54

I can't see defending a DUer as being a defense of bigotry or transphobia. redqueen Feb 2012 #56

it was me, once i understood the issue was the phrase, that i started ASKING posters for information seabeyond Feb 2012 #58

here as some examples. though i really think again this is an issue La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #60

Sorry, but all I see as far as evidence that she actively defended transphobia redqueen Feb 2012 #76

That is not clear to me. boston bean Feb 2012 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author redqueen Feb 2012 #120

If I defended someone considered a disruptor in this group justiceischeap Feb 2012 #90

I agree that perceptions are a big part of the picture, redqueen Feb 2012 #99

That's cause you rock! justiceischeap Feb 2012 #113

there was ONE comment by feldspar. that is not continually. we didnt know what the comment meant seabeyond Feb 2012 #121

I certainly understand that the issues for many minority groups boston bean Feb 2012 #38

and i feel the hosts of this forum should be feminists first and foremost. n/t Scout Feb 2012 #46

you can only be a feminist "first and foremost" if nothing else oppresses you more. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #48

well then fine. if you aren't a feminist, go post in a different group. Scout Feb 2012 #61

no, you don't get to make these absurd rules. i can be a feminist and have other identities La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #62

look, you were the one who said you can't be a feminist first and foremost if something... Scout Feb 2012 #80

its also the saying not they saying. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #85

omg... totally dishonest? i am still waiting to hear what right you had to make your false comment seabeyond Feb 2012 #88

i just did. nt La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #97

and it makes me distrust even more. that you would chose to interpret as you did. seabeyond Feb 2012 #106

just did what? nothing. n/t Scout Feb 2012 #129

i did not start arguing with you. Scout Feb 2012 #105

i said that in response to your snarky comment about wanting to see me leave. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #117

nevertheless, you DID say it. so we know where you stand. n/t Scout Feb 2012 #127

I don't think bullying is a productive way to produce consensus. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #69

who, pray tell, is engaged in bullying? n/t Scout Feb 2012 #77

I don't see anything wrong about including a female LGBT feminist maddezmom Feb 2012 #67

If people are shown the door because they don't participate in the spirit of the SoP Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #36

Are members of this forum banned from being in heated discussions? redqueen Feb 2012 #41

Wrong question. Instead, ask whether the member was repeatedly turning discussions into heated Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #55

lioness just said that i wanted to argue if transwomen were real women. my options... seabeyond Feb 2012 #59

we all know what your choice is sea.... Scout Feb 2012 #63

lol. clearly that's not a sexist position La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #65

why did you make that statement about me? and why havent you addressed it? seabeyond Feb 2012 #70

is this something you have said, either in pm or in a public post? La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #95

so what? are you getting my pms from peole? i am saying, and i will say it now.... seabeyond Feb 2012 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #115

if you didn't believe it, why would you post that? boston bean Feb 2012 #130

it seems to be that any kind of misrepresentation is allowed and if a person dares to be bothered seabeyond Feb 2012 #68

redqueen did not act unilaterally. that is against our understanding. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #64

Are you calling redqueen a liar? Her OP says "I am making this decision unilaterally" LeftyMom Feb 2012 #73

i sent a post to neoma pointing out the rules and our agreement that no one could ban seabeyond Feb 2012 #75

So you're calling her a liar. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #79

this is disgusting leftymom. truly. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #81

So was the decision made unilaterally or with consensus? LeftyMom Feb 2012 #84

both. she had our support thru conversation. she made the decision to unban at that moment. hostile seabeyond Feb 2012 #86

Ma'am, I'm asking a question because two people are telling mutually contradictory stories. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #89

no. two people are not. you are insistent on making it a gotcha moment. seabeyond Feb 2012 #91

I'd just like to get a clearer picture of how hosting is occurring. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #92

Here's something I learned from the LGBT forum -- Remember Me Feb 2012 #116

You learned that from the LGBT forum, did you? n/t TriMera Feb 2012 #122

LeftyMom, your post was alerted on. A jury voted 5-1 to leave it alone. yardwork Feb 2012 #112

Y'know, posting jury results is a real big part of the problem this group has had... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #114

LeftyMom is participating in this thread and asking reasonable questions. yardwork Feb 2012 #118

in a nutshell this has become the problem with how this forum is being run La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #123

To be honest with you, I thought leftymom boston bean Feb 2012 #125

I disagree. I think that LeftyMom's questions are appropriate and understandable. yardwork Feb 2012 #128

by redqueen? by seabeyond? boston bean Feb 2012 #131

" Are you calling redqueen a liar?" btw lefty, it is comments and interaction like this seabeyond Feb 2012 #78

Please see my comment above, LeftyMom Feb 2012 #82

why dont you weigh in on the civility of those that have come in here to argue their points. seabeyond Feb 2012 #83

It's ALWAYS possible to have a more civil discussion if one party submits Remember Me Feb 2012 #111

CAN WE ALL JUST STOP THIS PLEASE! The empressof all Feb 2012 #96

i agree. i can do that. easily. lets. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #103