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iverglas

(38,549 posts)
32. that's all lots of fun
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:48 PM
Feb 2012

I believe you mentioned earlier that the figures do not take into account non-reporting.

Intra-family sexual abuse of children, a majority of whom are girls, has an extremely low reporting rate.

There is no evidence that such abuse is less common in high-income households than in low-income households; there is evidence to the contrary in fact, that socioeconomic status is not a relevant factor. The same is true for spousal sexual assault, obviously a severely under-reported offence.

On the other hand, socioeconomic status does have an influence on mobiity. As I pointed out, a large proportion of the high-income households in Brookline will not consist of people born and bred locally. They will probably have been born elsewhere and attended postsecondary institutions in a different place again, for example, settling in Brookline because of the employment opportunities, and women in university are at relatively high risk of "date rape", for example.

So the data as you presented them simply fail to take into account a lot of things that are directly relevant here.

I don't know why you are "assuming" that 20% of women in the US have been sexually victimized. That assumption is completely out of line with any estimates based on actual research.

In my own immediate circle, I was a victim of a "classic" stranger rape: abducted, choked into submission, escaped with my life but just by the skin of my wits. My best friend was a victim of date rape in university. My nephew's mother was abused by her father. I could go on. I'd be hard pressed to name a friend who has not been the victim of sexual assault -- and, like the Canadian Criminal Code, I don't distinguish between vaginally penetrative assault and other sexual assault. All forms of sexual assault can be equally traumatizing for the victim, all of them have chilling effects on women's presence and participation in all spheres of our society.

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No/Stop should mean No/Stop to BOTH men and women. It doesn't always, but a preponderance of power patrice Feb 2012 #1
It sounds like the results of a poll in a backward male dominated third world country where women libinnyandia Feb 2012 #2
And how do these women think one SHOULD end a date that is going bad? saras Feb 2012 #3
This is Sad. Amazing how we have a blame the victim society. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #4
This too is human nature. WingDinger Feb 2012 #5
those survery results are horrifying. after all these decades of trying to talk, to instruct, about niyad Feb 2012 #6
I doubt the results would be much different among DUers. nt redqueen Feb 2012 #7
a truly sad thing niyad Feb 2012 #8
I believe it would probably be worse here, given our country's backwards attitudes. chrisa Feb 2012 #48
a third of respondants women who flirt are partially responsible for being raped. 2% of rape false seabeyond Feb 2012 #9
"Only 2% of accused rapists are convicted" Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #14
not to mention the fact a woman can be raped more than once. i was with three friends. 3 rapes seabeyond Feb 2012 #15
Yup, it happens a hell of a lot more then reported. Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #16
Needs more data One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #17
walk downtown, go to college, work.... regardless of social economic environment seabeyond Feb 2012 #18
Maybe, but I would like to see the data say that One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #23
I think you are assuming iverglas Feb 2012 #24
the point being, any person does not live all of life in one cloistured little safe environment seabeyond Feb 2012 #26
Guess my life experience is a bit different One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #30
and... and for me, as a woman, with friends, mother, nieces, aunts.... that really does not matter seabeyond Feb 2012 #31
that's all lots of fun iverglas Feb 2012 #32
it is interesting and noted, how i said i read 80% and the poster pulls out 20% seabeyond Feb 2012 #33
Mary Koss has decent data but it's old One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #35
maybe what you could help us with iverglas Feb 2012 #36
Point is Personal Experiences are Data not Statistics One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #37
well you've missed my points iverglas Feb 2012 #40
i will just start the first time i remember. 12, in the lunch line the boy behind me seabeyond Feb 2012 #38
And has that problem been fixed? One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #39
let's look at the topic of this thread iverglas Feb 2012 #41
Post 17 One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #43
How does this relate to the topic of blaming women for being raped? nt redqueen Feb 2012 #44
there's just something about that RAINN iverglas Feb 2012 #45
the discussion is.... the large portion of our female population being harrassed, assaulted and seabeyond Feb 2012 #42
I will back you up on knowing very few women Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #46
*Awful.* BlueIris Feb 2012 #10
The defense of the patriarchy is automatic, and not subject to analysis. redqueen Feb 2012 #11
The patriarchy must be very pleased with this. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #12
Gender difference is most interesting One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #13
we do this to psychologically protect ourselves. as long as we can blame other women for their rape La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #19
Just like how thinking that if you pee on your rapist, he'll go away. Neoma Feb 2012 #20
well that one is more intentional, i doubt these women realize what they are doing La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #21
Some do... Neoma Feb 2012 #22
I had a little debate with a health professor a few years back I am the OP Feb 2012 #25
yes, i teach both my boys and girls ways to be safe. an yes, the younger professor is right seabeyond Feb 2012 #27
not being concerned about fault ... iverglas Feb 2012 #34
To be fair, it is totally the guy's fault. nt Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #47
Wait, is this the same study Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #28
your last sentence made me laugh. losts of serious of late.... in these threads. lots of posters seabeyond Feb 2012 #29
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