Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kurt_cagle

(534 posts)
17. Ah yes, the Unholy Triangle
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 02:54 PM
Feb 2012

A whole genre built around the witch/warrior, vampire and werewolf as a proxy for the hard-edged dame with a heart of gold (as the proxy for the (mostly female) reader), the wealthy, urbane rich guy and the tortured boy from the wrong side of the tracks. I was actually on a writer's panel with Kat Richardson about this particular trope at an SF convention in Seattle last year, and there's no question that it has taken over both the urban fantasy and romance genre like kudzu.

It's a formula, a certain degree of wish fulfillment, and yes, ultimately it is fantasy, but it also caricatures the caricature. It plays to the fantasy that the bad boys can be tamed by the right woman. Bad boys are fun - they are dangerous, adventurous, doing something that breaks out of the expectations of your family or culture. It's worth noting, however, that the stories become considerably less interesting once the bad boys have been tamed, which is why the series that feature this trope begin to get stale and tedious after the first couple of volumes, unless there is something else to carry it (for some reason, father/daughter issues tend to be the follow-through trope, for some bizarre reason).

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

You bring up a very good point. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #1
I have a problem with fiction in general justiceischeap Feb 2012 #2
I know exactly what you mean. It isn't just heroes it has been in movies since they started. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #3
i stopped reading in the 80's cause of the protrayals of women seabeyond Feb 2012 #7
i read a new author kindle book and loved it. truly a kick ass main female character seabeyond Feb 2012 #5
since getting a kindle, i have received a lot of free or cheap books from new authors. seabeyond Feb 2012 #4
I just think it's sad justiceischeap Feb 2012 #6
Some Thoughts From a Writer kurt_cagle Feb 2012 #8
Your book sounds interesting and something I'd probably like reading justiceischeap Feb 2012 #9
Rescue kurt_cagle Feb 2012 #12
love this. and this is what i was thinking reading thru this thread. seabeyond Feb 2012 #14
I totally get that fiction is not real life and often real life is quite boring justiceischeap Feb 2012 #15
Ah yes, the Unholy Triangle kurt_cagle Feb 2012 #17
except you and i are seeing ourselves about the same, and over time and experience, conclude about seabeyond Feb 2012 #13
i think a writer needs to get past the concern of defeminizing and this is why... seabeyond Feb 2012 #11
Yeah, sadly it isn't even surprising to me. redqueen Feb 2012 #10
Caricatures kurt_cagle Feb 2012 #16
I generally base my characters off real people, but tone them down. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #18
So interesting libodem Feb 2012 #19
Are you a reader? Are you a feminist? If so, you have something to add to the conversation justiceischeap Feb 2012 #20
Yes, I love to read libodem Feb 2012 #21
that is a fun series. stopped reading about 12, 13. seabeyond Feb 2012 #23
I would just like to add this to the thread. Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #22
It happens with a lot of female writers too justiceischeap Feb 2012 #24
Latest Discussions»Alliance Forums»Feminists»Overheard on another boar...»Reply #17