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justiceischeap

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9. Your book sounds interesting and something I'd probably like reading
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 11:55 AM
Feb 2012

I guess my biggest qualm is that (some) people think there's really only one way to be feminine. I'm not what (most) people would consider outwardly feminine. That said, just by virtue of being female, makes me feminine. I don't think it makes a woman less a woman (and really, this is where the feminization argument comes to play) if she is strong, and can slay a dragon so to speak. One could argue that women who grew up in gang-plagued areas and who are violent aren't any less feminine, they're just more violent. I'll use female hispanic gang members for an example. They can be quite violent but often tend toward the very (society-conceived) feminine "look." Does their violence make them appear less feminine? Not so much, IMO.

I often think that when (some) people pull out the feminine card, what they often mean is they want their women to be weaker than men (I'm referring to mostly fiction here). That if a female protagonist is stronger than a male protagonist, this somehow emasculates the male and I think that's the wrong way to look at it. If a female protagonist is stronger than the male, it just means that she doesn't need to be rescued. There's nothing inherently wrong with being rescued but women do not need to be rescued as often in real life as they seem to be in fiction. Telling men or women through fiction that their gender roles are in danger because they did or didn't rescue someone adds to the problem women face in our society. If we continually read that women need to be rescued, then (some) men will continually seem to see us as weaker because of that need and if he encounter's a woman who doesn't need to be rescued that makes her threatening because he can't act on his preconceived role--which could be interpreted as damaging his ego.

I don't know, I'm mostly pulling opinion from where the sun don't shine but it's the way I see it, right or wrong. Mama didn't raise no psychology major but she did raise a thinker.

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You bring up a very good point. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #1
I have a problem with fiction in general justiceischeap Feb 2012 #2
I know exactly what you mean. It isn't just heroes it has been in movies since they started. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #3
i stopped reading in the 80's cause of the protrayals of women seabeyond Feb 2012 #7
i read a new author kindle book and loved it. truly a kick ass main female character seabeyond Feb 2012 #5
since getting a kindle, i have received a lot of free or cheap books from new authors. seabeyond Feb 2012 #4
I just think it's sad justiceischeap Feb 2012 #6
Some Thoughts From a Writer kurt_cagle Feb 2012 #8
Your book sounds interesting and something I'd probably like reading justiceischeap Feb 2012 #9
Rescue kurt_cagle Feb 2012 #12
love this. and this is what i was thinking reading thru this thread. seabeyond Feb 2012 #14
I totally get that fiction is not real life and often real life is quite boring justiceischeap Feb 2012 #15
Ah yes, the Unholy Triangle kurt_cagle Feb 2012 #17
except you and i are seeing ourselves about the same, and over time and experience, conclude about seabeyond Feb 2012 #13
i think a writer needs to get past the concern of defeminizing and this is why... seabeyond Feb 2012 #11
Yeah, sadly it isn't even surprising to me. redqueen Feb 2012 #10
Caricatures kurt_cagle Feb 2012 #16
I generally base my characters off real people, but tone them down. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #18
So interesting libodem Feb 2012 #19
Are you a reader? Are you a feminist? If so, you have something to add to the conversation justiceischeap Feb 2012 #20
Yes, I love to read libodem Feb 2012 #21
that is a fun series. stopped reading about 12, 13. seabeyond Feb 2012 #23
I would just like to add this to the thread. Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #22
It happens with a lot of female writers too justiceischeap Feb 2012 #24
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