Feminists

i dont have time to do this, but iverglas made a claim that i dont get to be a feminst if i prioritize the rights of the lgbt community over straight women.

Quote me, or, with all due respect, hold your peace and refrain from saying things that are not true.

If you don't have time to address something someone has actually said and prefer to make shit up instead, I'm sure there is somewhere you can post that where it will be welcome.

Perhaps you were attempting to offer an example of the real problem here -- which is not what anyone else does or says.

On the point made later in this subthread: am I, as a straight woman who survived an abduction, rape and attempted murder, and as a result (in combination with other experiences), suffer significant post-traumatic stress that colours my perception of the world in every regard, less "oppressed" than a lesbian who has never been a victim of sexual violence or abuse?

Of course lesbians have suffered such victimization. Not all lesbians have. Not all lesbians have been discriminated against in the workplace or housing market on the basis of sexual orientation. Not all lesbians are more oppressed or victimized than any straight woman simply because they are lesbians. Hell, my best lesbian friend comes from a much higher socio-economic status than I do, never had to worry about how she was going to pay for her education, and had no difficulty at all securing a prestigious, well-paid job in government. Yeah, she's Canadian, but hell, she's a woman and a lesbian. Your issues are not actually universal either.


it took a long time for straight feminist to even acknowledge gay feminists in the feminism movement, this is why it is important to me to acknowledge that our priorities may not be the same. while you seek equality in your marriage, i seek the rights to marriage. while pornification may be a big deal to you, it almost doesn't register as particularly important to me. porn, sex-work and visibility of queer women are places that i have most recently found huge difference with feminists in this particular forum.

Well, finally. Your priorities as a lesbian may not be the same as ours as women. Pornification may be a "big deal" to us. Hey, you're not dismissive at all. But ... sex work is somehow a lesbian issue (I'm still failing to see in what different way), but our perspective as straight women is not worth bothering about, I guess. Who might care about the effects of those phenomena on women, or even just straight women, when they (allegedly) affect lesbians differently? Who might want to consider that their perspective should take other women's into account?

You're making it clear. You're privileging the alleged different interests of lesbians (not all lesbians concurring) over the stated and demonstrable interests of vast numbers of women world-wide.

So I see this proposed new group as just a front for that position, and I'd be impressed if someone had just come out and said so.