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In reply to the discussion: Skygate 911 [View all]superbeachnut
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dballance, there are no special maneuvers on 911 made by the 4 terrorists pilots. They all crashed, and crashing is the easiest maneuver in the book. Plus the WTC towers were 207 minimum cross section to hit. When landing on a 150 foot runway, a pilot has to hit the center or he will not pass his check out, landing off center like Flight 175 would be unsatisfactory. Did you crash your Honda the first day you learned to drive, did you drive off the road? My daughter drove our car and learned to shift a standard transmission at 8, and the first time driving, on centerline. Wow, rookie driver. And moving to formula one, you say you can't drive it? Better stop driving all together with that failed attitude. 911 was done by 4 terrorists who studied flying for years, rented/paid for simulator time - have you? Have you tried to fly? First time I flew a small plane, C-150, on centerline, on speed, and landed; FIRST time. First time in a heavy jet, a KC-135, first landing no help, on centerline, on speed, perfect. And you say 4 pilots trained in jet simulator, all 4 with FAA tickets to fly cause they flew for years, can't crash on 911. LUS, you can't name or describe a maneuver they did that a rookie pilot can't do better. Name the maneuvers you are talking about, because the terrorists pilots did nothing special; zero special maneuvers, they all crashed, and flew poorly. Are you saying something was hard to do?
Explain in detail, bank angle, g force, decent rates, etc, that was hard to do on 911?
You know nothing about autopilots - you can use the turn knob and altitude hold and go where you want, not some pre programed path. You don't have to program anything, you can hand fly, and the terrorist pilots hand flew the final sections - did you try to research this, or are you going with Google junk from 911 truth sources? Sounds like you are talking with zero experience in heavy jets.
Then you skip to structural engineering, and think WTC 7 is special. Many buildings have been totaled by fires, and those buildings totaled in fire were fires that were fought. Did you try to look at this? Are you an engineer now, after messing up flying now you have an open mind and are an expert on structural engineering and want to say WTC 7 was CD, when it was not. Good, you are in the 13th year of not being able to understand fire did WTC 7, NIST says thermal expansion of some steel started the collapse. It makes sense, some engineering disagree what started it, but they all agree it was not CD, not thermite, not your silent explosives, but a building totaled by fire that collapsed; fires not fought.
Windsor Building, fire fought, building never used again, like WTC 7 but it only partially collapsed because of a concrete core and fires were fought for 24 hours.
One Meridian Plaza, fire fought, building never used again. Fire fighter left building fearing a collapse, the building totaled by fire, never used again, like WTC but did not collapse because the fires were fought.
WTC 7, totaled by fire before the collapse started, fires burned all day, fires not fought, and due to a unique design, WTC 7 collapsed. There are no sane engineers who believe WTC 7 was CD. But go ahead, believe the less than 0.1 percent of all engineers who fall for the same dumbed down nonsense from 911 truth says about 911. You have the support of a fringe few who can't figure out 911, and they are less than 0.1 percent of all engineers. Wow, you got nothing and support liars who spread lies about things, and you and the Boston bombers both are gullible on 911, believing lies from 911 truth.
The first time I flew heavy jets was 1976, your silly "The Big Bamboozle" is nonsense made up by a paranoid conspiracy theorist who killed himself and his kids. Not a sane person, and at best a BS artist who lies to sell books.
The author of your great book of woo, lies. There is nothing hard about flying a 767. Did you think? What if you took the jet, and wanted to see the WTC towers? What if you took the plane headed west? What do you do to see the WTC? Oh, fly east, put the E in the compass and go east. Wow, that was hard. Now you see the WTC from over 100 miles away sticking up over 1,000 feet. You can see the WTC from a hundred miles away, this was such and easy task it would take people dumber than idiots to miss the WTC. The only pilots in the world who brag about not being about to hit the WTC are pilots for truth, and it seems the pilots you know, failed pilots who can 't do. Can't do it. Can't, not in the normal pilots tool box, we usually are type A, not type Can't. Where do you find all the failed pilots? Special filter on Google?
Anyway, there was no beating the USAF on 911. The USAF had no mission over the USA to shoot down or harass airliners. Our skies over the country were not patrolled by armed fighters. If you meet a fighter armed for intercept it was over the water next to Warning Areas, in the ADIZ - sorry, but before 911 our skies were truly like the founding fathers wanted, free of the military. We usually don't use military for law enforcement, it is prohibited - do you want to go use the military for police actions in the USA. The military would be called upon by the FAA to follow hijacked aircraft, the time frame would be hours, maybe an hour. Would it be an Alert bird, maybe not, it could be a training mission diverted to help they FAA, like Payne Stewart's plane. Over 80 minutes to the first USAF plane to watch the aircraft.
So the "The Big Bamboozle" says the terrorists beat the USAF, there was no USAF to beat, we did not patrol what used to be FAA civilian controlled skies over the USA. The terrorists had a way to surprise us, we did not instantly shoot down radio out planes, planes with broken Mode3, if you stop squawking there is no instant scramble on 911. The book is a big lie. You were fooled by a suicidal lair, or if you want, BS artist who spreads lies, and gullible people love to repeat the false junk.
"The Big Bamboozle", dumbed down fiction for the paranoid conspiracy theorists. Nothing in the book is good for anything in the real world. The author is a hateful nut, who killed his kids. The only people his tripe will fool are people like the Boston bombers and conspiracy theorists, Bigfoot has better moral grounds than this crap spreading lies and blaming ourselves for a fantasy delusional false flag. Why spread lies about 911? 13 years and this tripe still fools people who claim to be rational open minded, super smart, and only exposes massive ignorance of 911, flying, engineering, fire science, etc.
Debate pilots for truth, how do you debate delusional fantasy, Fake Vg diagrams, lies of impossible speeds? Go ahead, support one of the claim you have. Debate the fantastic maneuvers you can't explain the in the first place. Go ahead, take your book "The Big Bamboozle" and support it with fact.
The complex plot of 911
1. take planes
2. crash planes
So complex, must of taken super smart guys to murder the crew and kill the pilots, only super smart people can kill... Complex? Fellow American's were murdered on 911 and you support liars and celebrate fantasy, ignorance and nonsense.
Which maneuver was too hard for the pilots you know, we know the pilot for truth can't hit a 900 plus foot wide Pentagon, what did your pilot friend say they Can't do?
You can't debate your fantasy, and you have no experts, you have the support of less than 0.1 percent of all pilots, the Internet has you thinking you have massive support, it is zero support and you have no evidence. Proof you have nothing, you will never come up with a maneuver that was hard on 911. You don't know anything about 911, you have Google knowledge, and it is worthless, and the working brain stuff is funny, wait till you wake up to realize 911 truth is a fake movement based on hearsay, lies and fantasy. You lack of knowledge is why you don't understand the lies, and look where we are posting, where fantasy is discussed, and you bring the fantasy.
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