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29. NIST Temperature summary from NCSTAR 1A

Thu May 15, 2014, 03:26 PM

May 2014

Summary from NCSTAR 1A WTC 7 Investigation (PDF)
http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861610

"...Thus, WTC7 did not collapse due to fire-induced weakening of critical columns"...

"...Temperatures did not exceed 300 °C (570 °F) in the core or perimeter columns in WTC7"...

"...The thermal expansion of the WTC7 floor beams...occurred primarily at temperatures below ~750 °F"...

We are asked to believe that temperatures lower than those seen in self cleaning ovens caused a 47 story building to collapse in a matter of seconds.

A self-cleaning oven is an oven which uses high temperature approximately 500° Celsius (900° Fahrenheit) to burn off leftovers from baking, without the use of any chemical agents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-cleaning_oven

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Building 7 [View all] wildbilln864 Mar 2014 OP

and... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #1

Fucking gravity, how does that work? (n/t) William Seger Mar 2014 #2

yep wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #3

Gravity doesn't know or care why the columns failed William Seger Mar 2014 #4

LOL! Politicalboi Jun 2014 #36

So, you haven't read the NIST WTC7 report? William Seger Jun 2014 #42

It's nice to know that your argument from incredulity... AZCat Jun 2014 #43

gravity doesn't know or care.... wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #40

PULL IT and the BBC video - WTC7 won't go away Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #5

Larry Silverstein clearly meant that they needed to pull the firemen back cpwm17 Apr 2014 #6

Could you cite an example nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #8

Larry Silverstein was talking to the Fire Department commander cpwm17 Apr 2014 #9

Sleazy truthers? Politicalboi Apr 2014 #11

There you go cpwm17 Apr 2014 #12

As I said in another thread I don't think any evidence will be enough. AZCat Apr 2014 #13

Spare us Politicalboi May 2014 #19

Well, there you go. AZCat May 2014 #23

+1000. IronGate May 2014 #24

I NEVER accused the FDNY of being in on anything Politicalboi May 2014 #18

Here are the Pentagon debris images cpwm17 May 2014 #27

We are NOT accusing firemen of ANYTHING Politicalboi Jun 2014 #37

The BEEB's Jane Standley was back 3 hours later nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #7

The fire department knew WTC7 was going to collapse before it collapsed cpwm17 Apr 2014 #10

I doubt there were 300 firemen in WTC 7 Politicalboi May 2014 #21

They certainly did hear and fail explosions jberryhill May 2014 #28

So, what you are saying is.... jberryhill May 2014 #14

All these CT's about WTC7 just crack me the hell up. IronGate May 2014 #15

"I heard something go pop" jberryhill May 2014 #16

You've got that right. IronGate May 2014 #17

LOL! Yeah the real world Politicalboi May 2014 #20

I'll hazard a guess and say I have far more experience IronGate May 2014 #22

well sure you do... wildbilln864 May 2014 #25

As if I give a shit whether or not you believe it. IronGate May 2014 #26

please.... wildbilln864 May 2014 #31

NIST Temperature summary from NCSTAR 1A nationalize the fed May 2014 #29

great post! n/t wildbilln864 May 2014 #32

Your argument only is significant to the ignorant. AZCat May 2014 #33

steel is steel. wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #48

No it isn't, nor is heat transfer that simple. AZCat Jun 2014 #65

No melted steel on 911, only fire. superbeachnut Jun 2014 #66

Was it 10 stories a second? Politicalboi Jun 2014 #38

It's not a matter of believing it, it's my experience living it. IronGate Jun 2014 #44

The science backs you up too. AZCat Jun 2014 #45

I've attended several Fire Science Academy's during my 20+ Fire Service career, IronGate Jun 2014 #46

nonsense! Idiots believe the official conspiracy theory! wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #47

Speak of the devil. IronGate Jun 2014 #49

My experience is constructing buildings wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #50

13 years and you can't figure out 911 superbeachnut Jun 2014 #51

"That didn't happen on 911" ?!? William Seger Jun 2014 #52

I have no hereos in this matter... wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #57

"Building 7! Symetric collapse just like CD til out of sight. " William Seger Jun 2014 #61

I'm having a very difficult time believing a word from him with statements like this: IronGate Jun 2014 #62

It was a CD wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #63

Yeah, riiiight. IronGate Jun 2014 #64

building 7! n/t wildbilln864 Jul 2014 #67

What about it? IronGate Jul 2014 #68

So IOW, you have zero real world experience with burning buildings and how fire IronGate Jun 2014 #53

more bullshit! wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #55

LOL, IronGate Jun 2014 #56

schooled huh? wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #58

Really? IronGate Jun 2014 #54

well fuck you got me... wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #59

The fires were weak and oxygen starved? IronGate Jun 2014 #60

blah blah, yada, yada yah! wildbilln864 Jul 2014 #70

You want to believe I'm stupid, have at it if that's what re-enforces your CT's or IronGate Jul 2014 #71

Presumably there was no asbestos in 7 nationalize the fed May 2014 #30

Remind me again - where was the asbestos in the towers? AZCat May 2014 #34

sleazy anti-truthers! n/t wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #35

LOL! Politicalboi Jun 2014 #39

Yes, of course we're the sleazy ones cpwm17 Jul 2014 #72

what an idiotic post you made. wildbilln864 Jul 2014 #73

10 more seconds on the clock for those who can't figure out 911 superbeachnut Jul 2014 #74

People that care about facts don't blame obviously innocent people for terrible crimes cpwm17 Jul 2014 #75

correct there. has nothing to do with what I said though. wildbilln864 Jul 2014 #76

You are making fun of my use of the term "sleazy truthers" cpwm17 Jul 2014 #77

"an unbiased investigation" William Seger Jul 2014 #78

+1000. IronGate Jul 2014 #79

A gravity collape due to fire - The video is a lie, why do people make up dirt dumb lies about 911 superbeachnut Jun 2014 #41

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