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jfz9580m

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Thu Aug 28, 2025, 11:05 AM
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I kinda hesitate to weigh in here but while I am with you 75% of the way, the last 25% of the way I feel that in a one-party still-democracy-but-barely like the US, I would hold my nose and pull the lever for the dem were I American.
And then make any case later.

I think effective altruism and utilitarianism etc are bullshit of course. But the reality is that the GOP is crazy (the odd republican here and there aside) -I mean the party not the voters.
And irl “voting your conscience” or staying at home etc just seems to mean hell for so many people

I usually try to see most people with politics I disapprove of as misguided rather than evil up to a point because humans can be a very stupid species.

So I don’t blame people without vested interests who have crazy views up to a point because I figure if you follow the rubbish that passes for the media how would you not be completely misinformed?

Abdul Al Sayed gently chided Nathan Robinson for taking an overly critical view of even Bernie over this issue.
I kinda get that. This is a dire situation overall and while I suppose trump 2.0 has the effect of waking everyone up wrt the emergency democratically this will be a hard learning process and there is no predicting how things will go.
I would have preferred a slower wake up call but well it’s a crisis. No point ignoring that.

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